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glowstick
07-25-2005, 05:32 PM
I just heard on the news that a film about the Bernardo/Homolka crime was released...if a sick mind perpetrated the crime...what kind of mind would make a film about said crime
Mouse
07-25-2005, 05:35 PM
How could she???
I'd always liked Laura Prepon, but this role (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424938/) choice blew me away when I heard about it.
What was she thinking???
glowstick
07-25-2005, 05:45 PM
Our film people should have prevented it from being filmed ....or maybe that would be stiffling " artistic license " ?
Mouse
07-25-2005, 05:55 PM
Victim #1, victim #2, victim #3.
That's just plain disgusting.
BillD
07-25-2005, 06:07 PM
Do we feel the same about the movie Monster, and the one about Ted Bundy?
Mouse
07-25-2005, 06:09 PM
No.
Next question please.
Mr. Apollo
07-25-2005, 09:57 PM
As unfortunate as I find it, I can't really see anything wrong with it other then it hits too close to home. There have movies made about other murderers and the only people that every really get riled up about it are people who knew the victims or were from the same area as the victims. The best solution is just to ignore these films and not give them the publicity they want by talking about it.
As an aside, one of my bosses was also a co-owner of a video store near the French or Mahaffey residence (I forget which one). The mother came in everyday making a big fuss about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre type movies. It seems that see didn't want them carried since Bernado cut up the bodies with a saw of some sort (a table saw I think). Anyway she was successful in getting some local residences together to get them to stop carrying the movies. I understand she went through an unbelievable and horrific tradegy but I think that was a bit over the top.
BillD
07-25-2005, 10:36 PM
Why not?
Mouse
07-26-2005, 08:23 AM
Mr. Apollo's first paragraph answers your question, if it was directed at me.
Never watched the other flicks either, except some portions of Monster just to see what all the hub-bub was about vis-a-vie Charlize Theron.
BillD
07-26-2005, 09:45 AM
Not necessarily at you MouseMeat, but glowstick's comment raises the question, do we have a different standard for things that aren't close to us. All the other movies were about sick minded individuals also, and yet they were well recieved, at least by box office receipts and film awards. To me it raises a number of questions.
Quintin
07-26-2005, 10:44 AM
I just heard on the news that a film about the Bernardo/Homolka crime was released...if a sick mind perpetrated the crime...what kind of mind would make a film about said crime
In my opinion I think if more people went to see it they would sympathize with the families more and definitely someone would shoot Karla
glowstick
07-26-2005, 05:36 PM
Society has it's fair share of devients...this and any other films like it IMO are merely drawing blueprints for them. Society can't work on their rehabilitation on one hand and with the other hand come out with this stuff( violent films ).
dbusguy
07-26-2005, 05:46 PM
I just heard on the news that a film about the Bernardo/Homolka crime was released...if a sick mind perpetrated the crime...what kind of mind would make a film about said crime
Sorry, but I don't think it's any different from other movies made about other crimes. (Helter Skelter) I think it's just because it happened so close to home we feel more horror. If it had happened in say California or New York, would we feel so upset about the movie?
If possible, I plan on seeing it. It's only a movie about a person who committed a crime. That's how I'm looking at it. Just so long as she does not benefit from it.
btw, new web site to track her. Where is Karla (http://www.whereiskarla.com)
glowstick
07-26-2005, 05:53 PM
Growing up the movie and book "The Boston Stangler " was all part of the " in "....I don't mind telling you that it scared the bejeezas out of me and to this day I don't like that sort of thing and that was in Boston!
Sorry, but I don't think it's any different from other movies made about other crimes. (Helter Skelter) I think it's just because it happened so close to home we feel more horror. If it had happened in say California or New York, would we feel so upset about the movie?
If possible, I plan on seeing it. It's only a movie about a person who committed a crime. That's how I'm looking at it. Just so long as she does not benefit from it.
btw, new web site to track her. Where is Karla (http://www.whereiskarla.com)
dbusguy
07-26-2005, 05:57 PM
I hear you. It is shocking that humanity can be that cold and cruel. But still, there is curiosity that drives some of us to make and for others to see such a film. I watch Helter Skelter every time it's on. I know, I'm pathetic :(
I hear you. It is shocking that humanity can be that cold and cruel. But still, there is curiosity that drives some of us to make and for others to see such a film. I watch Helter Skelter every time it's on. I know, I'm pathetic :(
I watch that too , its interesting to see. For most of us its hard to understand how some people can be so cold and brutal and thats why it is interesting, its a look into the mind set of a different kind of person.
Walter
07-27-2005, 04:40 AM
Voyeurism is part of human nature to varying degrees and nature.
Not my type of movie so I won't go and see it or rent the dvd but welcome to the real world.
glowstick
07-27-2005, 12:56 PM
While I fully aknowledge the irrefutable existence of " voyeurism ", I don't have to be unmoved by it...with that kind of attittude...anything that comes along that isn't pallatable should just be chucked into the " human nature " basket and ignored, instead of speaking up and voicing your disapproval!
Walter
07-28-2005, 05:03 AM
While I fully aknowledge the irrefutable existence of " voyeurism ", I don't have to be unmoved by it...with that kind of attittude...anything that comes along that isn't pallatable should just be chucked into the " human nature " basket and ignored, instead of speaking up and voicing your disapproval!
In this case if you want to show your disapproval don't support the producers by going to the movie........no one is impeding your freedom of expression.
dbusguy
07-28-2005, 02:13 PM
Good point Walter (don't support the producers) so, how can I see the movie without paying for it........hmmmm, me thinks a download is in order ;)
gollychuck
08-03-2005, 10:29 AM
I think if there were no interest in the movie, they would not make it,
We get what we pray for, I will not pay money to see it but it will be on TV some day. Just as god made little apples, and any disagreement obout it being shown plays into their hands,
andyman
08-04-2005, 11:29 AM
they cancelled the screening of the movie @ the film festival
Exmortis
08-04-2005, 02:06 PM
http://www.whereiskarla.com/
Address: Updated August 4, 2005: Karla's address is known. Now, it's a matter of legally posting it. We will post what we can when we can!
This is gonna be interesting...
http://www.whereiskarla.com/
Address: Updated August 4, 2005: Karla's address is known. Now, it's a matter of legally posting it. We will post what we can when we can!
This is gonna be interesting...
I don't see why they can't post it on their site. The judge in Quebec threw out her case where she asked for privacy.
Rustynut
08-04-2005, 08:44 PM
First of all, privacy is something she gave up when she participated in the crime. Now that it is all done, too bad but she is and will be in the eye of those that wish to carefully watch her moves.
As to the film, I think it should be locked away along with all the other nutso films such as was referred to earlier in a post. Do we really need to be entertained by some child's suffering to the end? We have become a soceity of individuals that have become De-sensitised to horriffic scenes of carnage justifying it by artistic rights. There is a difference between fiction and fact. To relive the facts is to enjoy watching some child being tortured to death again.
Find enjoyment from spending time with your own kids, grand kids etc and teach them right from wrong, not helping the de-sensitisation of the next generation.
What Karla did was horrific not something to repeat again and again for commercial gain and the eventual loss of conscience of the viewers.
Had we not become so de-sensitised, we'd still have the death penalty and Karla would be pushing up daisies today. And so she should.
Next question is ... will that animal profit from the film? The only benefit or profit she should get is 180 grains of a 30 .06 between the eyes. :mad:
First of all, privacy is something she gave up when she participated in the crime. Now that it is all done, too bad but she is and will be in the eye of those that wish to carefully watch her moves.
As to the film, I think it should be locked away along with all the other nutso films such as was referred to earlier in a post. Do we really need to be entertained by some child's suffering to the end? We have become a soceity of individuals that have become De-sensitised to horriffic scenes of carnage justifying it by artistic rights. There is a difference between fiction and fact. To relive the facts is to enjoy watching some child being tortured to death again.
Find enjoyment from spending time with your own kids, grand kids etc and teach them right from wrong, not helping the de-sensitisation of the next generation.
What Karla did was horrific not something to repeat again and again for commercial gain and the eventual loss of conscience of the viewers.
Had we not become so de-sensitised, we'd still have the death penalty and Karla would be pushing up daisies today. And so she should.
Next question is ... will that animal profit from the film? The only benefit or profit she should get is 180 grains of a 30 .06 between the eyes. :mad:
Well rustynut , i dont think people watch these films to be entertained by the actual crime but because its interesting to look into the lives and minds of people who do things liek this. Its interesting to see what events took place and how the police went about investigating it.
I doubt the movie will be a 2 hour torture flick.
And you talk about desensitization and how people are animals and blah blah blah, then you go on to say someone needs a bullet between the eyes...........
There have been dozens of films made about serial killers, such as Jack the Ripper, the Boston Strangler, Ted Bundy, Son of Sam just to name a few that I don't see what the big deal is. Best way to show your disapproval, as Walter said, is to simply not go see it.
debbie
08-04-2005, 09:45 PM
It's probably no more than a made for television type film anyway
and not worth the price of a theatrical release ticket.
Exmortis
08-04-2005, 10:00 PM
I don't see why they can't post it on their site. The judge in Quebec threw out her case where she asked for privacy.
But it could make the site liable for accessorie to a crime if someone uses their information to attack/kill Karla. They have to cover their base and consult the law before posting. This is way beyond simply privacy.
But it could make the site liable for accessorie to a crime if someone uses their information to attack/kill Karla. They have to cover their base and consult the law before posting. This is way beyond simply privacy.
Using that logic, the people who now print and distribute the telephone book would be accessories to a crime if anyone killed someone by finding their address in the phone book??
Karla lost her case, so as far as I'm concerned, the site owner has nothing to worry about by publishing her address, as long as the site owner has irrefutable evidence that she does, in fact, live where he/she says she does.
debbie
08-04-2005, 10:27 PM
Then she is a private citizen who as a matter of public record, has had threats made against her life.
Then she is a private citizen who as a matter of public record, has had threats made against her life.
As they say...."you made your own bed, you sleep in it".
She is the author of her own demise and I won't shed any tears if she's hounded for the rest of her life and has to look over her shoulder.
debbie
08-04-2005, 10:42 PM
As they say...."you made your own bed, you sleep in it".
She is the author of her own demise and I won't shed any tears if she's hounded for the rest of her life and has to look over her shoulder.Well that's great and easier to say when it's not your website and not your legal fees. If anything went bad based on information published on their website it would absorb at least anywhere from the next 5 to 10 years of their lives and a lot of money. Would you take that risk for Karla? I know I wouldn't.
Mouse
08-04-2005, 10:45 PM
I would dirty my already dirty bumper with her blood.
And I stop for cats. :)
Well that's great and easier to say when it's not your website and not your legal fees. If anything went bad based on information published on their website it would absorb at least anywhere from the next 5 to 10 years of their lives and a lot of money. Would you take that risk for Karla? I know I wouldn't.
Whoever owns that site will probably just wait until the media publishes her address and by then it will be old news on that site anyway.
Exmortis
08-05-2005, 07:16 AM
Using that logic, the people who now print and distribute the telephone book would be accessories to a crime if anyone killed someone by finding their address in the phone book??
That logic doesn't hold. The prosecution could drag the site in the proceedings accusing them of posting with the intent of causing harm making them an accessory. A phone book is hardly made with such intent. Besides, Bell has a helluva lot more power and money to protect itself than a private citizen owning a private site.
It doesn't matter if the accusations will stick or not, it's the potential of having them thrown at you. In the end, you have to pay for your own defense at great expenses and potentially end up in debt for years. If I were the site owner, I'd be doing the same thing. Get legal council on the matter to make sure you're clear.
Rustynut
08-05-2005, 07:41 AM
Well rustynut , i dont think people watch these films to be entertained by the actual crime but because its interesting to look into the lives and minds of people who do things liek this. Its interesting to see what events took place and how the police went about investigating it.
I doubt the movie will be a 2 hour torture flick.
And you talk about desensitization and how people are animals and blah blah blah, then you go on to say someone needs a bullet between the eyes...........
And what of it? At least that rabid animal will have been put down humanely, quickly.
A luxury she didn't permit her victims.
Like I said it isn't just her that I would like to see put down but the others too. We need to learn that such atrocities will not be tolerated period. Life in prison or in this case the mere 12 years is not enough for the crime committed.
No one making a fuss about the movie about 9/11 starring nicholas cage as a hero cop?
Nearly four years after the collapse of the World Trade Center, Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone will direct a film based on the story of two police officers who were trapped in the rubble on Sept.
http://www.topix.net/who/nicolas-cage
Limey32
08-06-2005, 01:05 AM
Society has it's fair share of devients...this and any other films like it IMO are merely drawing blueprints for them. Society can't work on their rehabilitation on one hand and with the other hand come out with this stuff( violent films ).
First, there is no rehabilitation for such sicks freaks, only a beheading IMO. Also, these films don't MAKE sickos, anyone affected enough by ANY movie to kill, torture or rape was a time bomb anyway.
Limey32
08-06-2005, 01:12 AM
And what of it? At least that rabid animal will have been put down humanely, quickly.
A luxury she didn't permit her victims.
Like I said it isn't just her that I would like to see put down but the others too. We need to learn that such atrocities will not be tolerated period. Life in prison or in this case the mere 12 years is not enough for the crime committed.
Here here. My feelings exactly.
I LIKE EGGS
08-12-2005, 12:13 PM
I just love all the negative responses from society in general. You don't think that there has been any other horror movie based of some factual events??? That being said why not look at the positive side of it. Take it as educational as opposed to disrespect for those that it effects. Maybe it will wake some people up and be aware of what's out there....and what to look for. We would not have HALF the problems today if people were educated enough. Teenage girl, walks in the dark, through a wooded park area........expect something to go wrong. However sad but true....why put yourself in that situation??? Lack of education. So I for one have no issue with this movie. All the names have been changed so what difference does it make??? You would sit there and watch the news regarding this case....and its the news stations & A&E that profit from these stories....and don't hear any complaints about that. So why can't a guy front millions, tell a story and share it with the world???
morkys
08-12-2005, 09:24 PM
You can't say a dramatization is educating people. Its sensationalizing the story, if not the horrible acts of violence. You can't trivialize these events and say its education. This film is un-necessary and in bad taste. Try and put yourself in the shoes of the victims or the victims family. Would you want a film like this done in this manner? A movie gets made by the entertainment industry, a movie which dramatizes the story and/or events which depict someone raping and murdering someone you love? Or hypothetically, you as the victim? And this movie is made like all other entertainment, for profit. So in that sense, its simply wrong. Its almost like crimes become a source of income for the entertainment industry, which they already are when you look at court tv and all the analyzing of crimes and lawyers on tv etc etc. If you're honest, I think you wouldn't want a film like this made. I know I wouldn't.
I LIKE EGGS
08-15-2005, 09:51 AM
You can't say a dramatization is educating people. Its sensationalizing the story, if not the horrible acts of violence. You can't trivialize these events and say its education. This film is un-necessary and in bad taste. Try and put yourself in the shoes of the victims or the victims family. Would you want a film like this done in this manner? A movie gets made by the entertainment industry, a movie which dramatizes the story and/or events which depict someone raping and murdering someone you love? Or hypothetically, you as the victim? And this movie is made like all other entertainment, for profit. So in that sense, its simply wrong. Its almost like crimes become a source of income for the entertainment industry, which they already are when you look at court tv and all the analyzing of crimes and lawyers on tv etc etc. If you're honest, I think you wouldn't want a film like this made. I know I wouldn't.
AND you can't say that CNN, A&E or any other major network does not "profit" from these stories. Why is it ok for A&E to have a 2 hour biography on Karla and Paul.....and then have the nerve to sell the (already paid for by our sponsors via commercials) story on DVD for 50 bucks? All dramatization.....however NONE of the names have been changed. To be honest, I could care less if someone wanted to make a story of something traumatic that happened in my life....people deserve to be educated....not sheltered. Come now, you mean to tell me that if some of the missing people on the planet were not educated about potential dangers (cuz unfortunately some people are that naive) that they would still be alive today. That is like saying I should not tell my children not to talk to strangers for the fear that they may ask why.......and that for their protection I should not educate them on the potentials.....however graphic. Sometimes fear is the best teacher of all.
Mr. Apollo
08-15-2005, 04:45 PM
I've heard some rumors that whereiskarla.com and its parent site informingthepublic.com have been set up buy political groups to start a grassroots movement which they will then capitalize on for election purposes.
I LIKE EGGS
08-15-2005, 04:46 PM
I've heard some rumors that whereiskarla.com and its parent site informingthepublic.com have been set up buy political groups to start a grassroots movement which they will then capitalize on for election purposes.
That's some deep do do there ::mbx:
Mr. Apollo
08-15-2005, 08:03 PM
That's some deep do do there ::mbx:
I dismissed it at firsts, but looking through the site they ask a lot of questions like "What changes would you like in the Criminal Code?" or "What do you think of this email?" and they have some polls too. I can see how it would be a great way to gather and shape public opinion without people knowing it. Then those same people hear a politican saying the same things and think "Wow, ihe is really in tune with my concerns."
The site also talks about some "long term goals" and "changes" they want to see happen.
Athlon2600Plus
08-17-2005, 02:25 AM
I agree...however this is nothing new, they have ben making movies about serial killers for ages now, but I agree with you.. Stil blows my mind that she is now a free woman as her crimes were searing ...
Athlon2600Plus
08-23-2005, 04:34 PM
I disagree. I think people who have a conscience and a deep caring for humanity as a whole gets riled up over these films. I personally did not know the victims , but I certainly was affected by thier horrendous crimes . I can not imagine how the familes are feelings so I will not even pretend to. I also belive that Karla did not recieve the punishment she desrved but someday she will be Judged in the most profound way when she comes before our Creator. Not only were thier crmes shocking and horrifying, the fact that they both had no remourse for thier crimes. When I saw the interview, her eyes looked dead , cold and blank to me which very extreamly disturbing. It is hard to just forget these things , certainly the victims familes never will.
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