Star Trek 11 Romulan War Trilogy

[winemaster]

Latest talk on where the next movie may very well go




http://syfyportal.com/news.php?id=2489

[Swordfish]

I'm interested Id actually like to see it go that way.

[spaminator]

Latest talk on where the next movie may very well go




http://syfyportal.com/news.php?id=2489if the writers are determined to have stories on the romulan war i think that it should be as a tv series instead of movies. if the romulan war tv series does well, they can always make movies based on the romulan war tv series. the writers have also forgoten that there was also a klingon war as well. :)

[Les Shaw]

Thanks made my day :)

[Child of Cupertino]

if the writers are determined to have stories on the romulan war i think that it should be as a tv series instead of movies. if the romulan war tv series does well, they can always make movies based on the romulan war tv series. the writers have also forgoten that there was also a klingon war as well. :)

That may be true. But there's economics, politics, the ratings failure of "Enterprise" (damn pity, that) and a whole bunch off reasons why TV series DON'T get made; reasons that have nothing to do with good storylines or premises.

EDIT: Just actually read the article. Sounds pretty speculative to me...

[Child of Cupertino]

I'm interested Id actually like to see it go that way.

If only they would do that.

Star Trek: Enterprise. Pilot Episode. Scene One:

Open on an Iowa corn field.

A klingon runs through it.

A klingon? THAT early in the Star Trek canon??! I don't think so! Stupid IDIOTS producing the series :ngf:

[Bluvertigo]

:cool:

[Swordfish]

If only they would do that.

Star Trek: Enterprise. Pilot Episode. Scene One:

Open on an Iowa corn field.

A klingon runs through it.

A klingon? THAT early in the Star Trek canon??! I don't think so! Stupid IDIOTS producing the series :ngf:

Yeah that scene confused me also I allways thought it was Kirk who made first contact with the Klingons?

[Child of Cupertino]

Yeah that scene confused me also I allways thought it was Kirk who made first contact with the Klingons?

I'm not sure it was Kirk, either.

When I was a kid I had "The Starfleet Technical Manual"; a book that, while in reprint (and others have been publishd "through the genertions ;) was published a LONG time ago, prior to even the first motion picture. So it's TOS, all the way.

Now, this is a long time ago, but I recall that the Klingon hostilties started as a result of the language barrier. IIRC there was some refernce of this in the manual's section on the Universal Translator. I am lkeft with the impression that it was a deep space -- in space -- first contact. I'd Google more about it but I'm really busy. Here are a couple of search hits, though. Use the term "false canon" along with anything else "klingons, first contact" or something in your Google search.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/First_contact#Human-Klingon_First_Contact

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/false_canon.htm

[Swordfish]

I'm not sure it was Kirk, either.

When I was a kid I had "The Starfleet Technical Manual"; a book that, while in reprint (and others have been publishd "through the genertions ;) was published a LONG time ago, prior to even the first motion picture. So it's TOS, all the way.

Now, this is a long time ago, but I recall that the Klingon hostilties started as a result of the language barrier. IIRC there was some refernce of this in the manual's section on the Universal Translator. I am lkeft with the impression that it was a deep space -- in space -- first contact. I'd Google more about it but I'm really busy. Here are a couple of search hits, though. Use the term "false canon" along with anything else "klingons, first contact" or something in your Google search.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/First_contact#Human-Klingon_First_Contact

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/false_canon.htm

Thanks for the info :) I used to have that book at one time also but I lost it over the years

[Ottawaman]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-N6Cwhoh_s
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[Child of Cupertino]

Black, vinyl "firmback" (not really hardcover), with no picture on the front and only gold lettering. Also had a clear cover/pocket/sleeve thing firmly stretched across the front. It had the whole UFP charter, the two peace treaties. Lots of stuff that covered a lot of canon. It had to be published in like, 1972 or 3 or something! Wish I still had it!

[Child of Cupertino]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTeYaqIe3E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-N6Cwhoh_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVov6NJU2tk


LOL! I saw the karoake one before. But the poll on is new to me. Really good stuff! :D

[beyj8965]

i thought enterprise was good,i saw them all and watched from begining,but the problem with doing things before the events of the other star treks is you can make a mistake very easily.good show though,wished it wasn't cancelled:(

[Child of Cupertino]

i thought enterprise was good,i saw them all and watched from begining,but the problem with doing things before the events of the other star treks is you can make a mistake very easily.good show though,wished it wasn't cancelled:(


I thought it was good, too, and am bummed their ratings were so low. Perhaps one reason why it was low is because they really didn't adhere to Star Trek canon (forgive me, or for other forum members reading, but just in case canon means this (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=canon)).

With the long history of Star Trek's back-story development starting back in the early 1960's (the original series wasn't actually produced until 1967), Gene Roddenberry had FAR MORE back story developed than just what the main scripts of the original 79 episodes covered. Now, by the time Paramount got through a total of FOUR Trek series before "Enterprise", I'd say that the only ones left to watch after the Trek franchise was "all played out" after "Voyager" would be the hardcore fans. So, they really REALLY should have honored Trek canon, faithfully depicting all that previously established stuff that the hardcore fans knew and would expect. The "Temporal Cold War" storyline immediately hijacked the series and pitched canon OUT the airlock. It wasn't a great storyline to run with, either. Cool things happened in it to be sure, but the use of time travel is a scripting cop-out -- and has been overused throughout Trek.

The Xindi storyline was quite cool. But, again, contrary to Trek canon -- and it consumed TWO SEASONS!! Like JEEZ! If they wanted "action", they had TWO interstellar wars to capitalize on!! The Klingon and Romulan wars. In fact... did we ever even SEE a Romulan in the Enterprise series??

So, I think this was one aspect of the show that might have killed it prematurely.

[spaminator]

there was an episode in which a romulan mine was stuck to the enterprise. :)

[spaminator]

its too bad that the paramount employees are not sci fi and star trek friendly. :(

[Swordfish]

there was an episode in which a romulan mine was stuck to the enterprise. :)

I remember that one :) Lt Reed went outside the hull to defuse it and he got stuck to the mine that one was pretty cool :)


its too bad that the paramount employees are not sci fi and star trek friendly. :(


I know :( I'm hearing the next series or movies maybe filmed in Canada to keep costs down =\

[beyj8965]

what's wrong with it being filmed in Canada.i like that,my favorite sci-fi is filmed in Vancouver(stargate).

and i remember afew other episodes where you saw romulans.there was the one where they infiltrated the vulcan high counil and almost had war with the andorians.there was that other time when the romulan unmaned ship was causeing havic with some treaty.the ship that could change apearance.

[Child of Cupertino]

Huh. I either forget r missed those.. except maybe the one with the torpedo stuck to their hull. That one I can recall somewhat. Just goes to show ya that, even with a big fan like me, Enterprise didn't keep me runnin' for the remote every week. I liked most of the cast. Loved Archer as Captain. But... :confused:

[Swordfish]

what's wrong with it being filmed in Canada.i like that,my favorite sci-fi is filmed in Vancouver(stargate).

and i remember afew other episodes where you saw romulans.there was the one where they infiltrated the vulcan high counil and almost had war with the andorians.there was that other time when the romulan unmaned ship was causeing havic with some treaty.the ship that could change apearance.


Nothing. I think its cool that some of the hollywood shows are being filmed up here :)


Huh. I either forget r missed those.. except maybe the one with the torpedo stuck to their hull. That one I can recall somewhat. Just goes to show ya that, even with a big fan like me, Enterprise didn't keep me runnin' for the remote every week. I liked most of the cast. Loved Archer as Captain. But... :confused:


I agree I thought Archer was a cool Captain I also got a kick out of the Dr and his weird smile :)

[beyj8965]

I agree I thought Archer was a cool Captain I also got a kick out of the Dr and his weird smile :)

Archer is my fav captian from any of the series:) .the doc is to happy.the one episode where he tried to dicect that guy was funny.

[spaminator]

I know :( I'm hearing the next series or movies maybe filmed in Canada to keep costs down =\that would be great. i think that would have helped keep enterprise on the air. :)

[spaminator]

on the star trek boards, board members blamed scott bakula for the cancellation. i don't think that it's scott bakula's fault. i think that paramount is to blame.

[Swordfish]

that would be great. i think that would have helped keep enterprise on the air. :)

I agree :)

[Child of Cupertino]

on the star trek boards, board members blamed scott bakula for the cancellation. i don't think that it's scott bakula's fault. i think that paramount is to blame.

Like Swordfish, I thought that Bakkula was pretty good. The downfall IMO (as I've said) were those storylines.

There were a couple of shows during the Xindi story arc where Archer had to make some ugly decisions (destroying the Xindi base approaching the weapon's proving ground even though they were undetected) and also other shows where he just made some blunders due to inexperience that I thought were "real", if you will. Also, the character's understandably frayed stress levels reared its ugly head at times, and I thought that was "real" as well.

One thing that pissed me off in some of the shows -- particularly an early season one show -- were the gratuitous camera shots of Jolene Blalok. Like, the scene in the "medical decon chamber" where they "had to" rub medical gel all over each other? The camera angles were VERY salacious! Hey, if you've got sexy aliens where sexuality or free spirited attire is written to be part of their culture (Orion Slave Girls! YUM!), that's fine. But there was nothing character driven in these instances with a Vulcan, for crying out loud. Ditto when, in later seasons, Trip and T'Pol were undergoing their "physical rehab" massages. Gimme a friggin' BREAK! Even in TOS with that glorious horndog, Kirk, rutting every alien he could get his mitts on, at least the Starfleet females were properly portrayed and the camera never fell victim to their feminine attributes... aside from the miniskirts in the first place, of course, which made no sense in a military hierarchy but made the NBC brass happy. But, to me, the way the camera drooled over T'Pol -- and where they never did that with 7 or 9 aside from her catsuit, itself -- undermined the integrity of the show.

[spaminator]

yeah, i also didn't like the storyline in which tpol lost her ability to control emotion. just another excuse to see her naked.

[Child of Cupertino]

RIGHT!

Now, the last couple of episodes (part 1 (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/9440.html) and 2 (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/9515.html))where they tied into the TOS episode "The Tholian Web" where the (original) USS Defiant got pulled into subspace (or something) and ALSO tied the mirror universe in was absolutely AWESOME! In THAT context, the skin and sex was absolutely bang-on (pardon the pun :D ). Linda Park (playing the asian communications officer on Enterprise) was dynomite! You could get the sense that everyone involved in the production knew the series was a goner and it felt like they just wanted to indulge themselves in some fun hijinks in the mirror universe.

It was also a valiant effort to try and tie up the whole Suliban/temporal cold war thing, but by then I didn't care if it worked or not! It was too fun watching everybody kick ass on that TOS-era starship and knock each other off. "Bizarro Archer" was a HOOT!

They BLEW IT on the new creature redesign of the Gorn, however. :ngf:

(quasi related minutia: There was "a Gorn" involved in
"sci-fi tech" long before Trek (http://www.archives.upenn.edu/histy/features/computers/two.html) :D )

[Child of Cupertino]

By the way...

Does this face look familiar??

http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200504/new-050414-combs_1/320x240.jpg
(taken at the Enterprise wrap party, last year)




















Give up?















This is the face of actor Jeffrey Combs (http://www.jeffreycombs.com/); one of the busiest guest stars in the trek universe. Underneath tons of makeup and prosthetics, he was:

The awesome "Shran" (Enterprise):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/83/ST-Shran.jpg/200px-ST-Shran.jpg

Krem (Enterprise -- on the right):
http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200306/ent-019-ulis-and-krem-survey-t/240x320.jpg

Penk (Ringmaster in Voyager "wrestling" episode, "Tsunkatse"):
http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200506/voy-232-penk/320x240.jpg

DS9's Weyoun:
http://www.startreksite.com/crews/weyoun.jpg

DS9's "Liquidator "Brunt" -- hilarious!:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/images/a/a8/Brunt_portrait.jpg

And, his premier on the Trek franchise as "Tiron" (DS9):
http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/ds9-454-tiron--who-had-quark-c/240x320.jpg

He is only exceeded by Vaughn Armstrong (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/cast/bio/486.html) for playing more guest roles on Trek!

Both great actors! :rah:

[beyj8965]

wow,he plays afew people.........shran is a great character:)