Peel and stick tile

[rileydog]

Son has apt.(rental) and wants to lay peel & stick tiles over linoleum (Cheaper)...has landlords permission.
We will wash floor with TSP first.
Question: What type of floor primer and/or self leveller should we use.
ie. brand and were to buy

thanks

[mander]

I wouldn't bother sticking the peel and stick tiles to a linoleum floor without first removing it down to the floor underneath. They wont stick very well to the linoleum. What is the floor under it? Concrete or wood?

[rileydog]

Like i said...it's a rental ,if it were mine(or his) I'd do it right and lay cermiac... not looking for more costly ideas, like demoing the floor...this is basicly a quick fix. He's not stay there for decades.Thanks anyway.

I know it can be done..just wonder if some new the name of the products i'm looking for.

[Dr.Dan]

I've done a lil research on this... and it really comes down to *exactly* what the exsisting floor is... but most of them will not be a good surface to go overtop of.. :(

If it's truely linoleum and not sheet vinyl, then you might be OK with using the right stuff... but even then, some people still have problems with the new tile lifting / not sticking.

You're real choices are lifting the exsisting floor, or putting plywood over it before you tile.

[mander]

I've done a lil research on this... and it really comes down to *exactly* what the exsisting floor is... but most of them will not be a good surface to go overtop of.. :(

If it's truely linoleum and not sheet vinyl, then you might be OK with using the right stuff... but even then, some people still have problems with the new tile lifting / not sticking.

You're real choices are lifting the exsisting floor, or putting plywood over it before you tile.

That is where I was heading Dan. Peel and stick will not adhere to linoleum or sheet vinyl and will lift in a heartbeat. If nothing else, remove whats there first then level as best you can or you are asking for nothing but a bigger headache even if this is just a quick fix. If done on top of whats there, it will need to be done again within a few months. The coating on the linoleum or sheet vinyl, whichever it is, wont allow for the peel and stick to actually stick because of the glossy surface below. Its like getting water to stick to a freshly waxed car...not gonna happen.

[Taz]

I just did it in my kitchen a while back. I didn't need a leveler as the llinoleum was in good shape an fairly level. just washed with TSP rinsed and laid the new tiles. If there are any tears, rips ,chips etc in the linoleum them.

Heresome info from Armstrong
http://www.armstrong.com/resflram/na/tile/en/us/

http://www.armstrong.com/content2/resam/files/17897.pdf
http://www.armstrong.com/resflram/na/tile/en/us/article17898.html

Its been almost a year actually and no problems with lifting

[Mouse]

You could use Wellbond as a bonding agent.

Mix 1 to 3 with water, and roll/brush it on.

Let dry, then tile over it.

[rileydog]

[QUOTE=Taz]I just did it in my kitchen a while back. I didn't need a leveler as the llinoleum was in good shape an fairly level. just washed with TSP rinsed and laid the new tiles. If there are any tears, rips ,chips etc in the linoleum them.

Hmmmm...surprised you didn't need to scuff or treat linoleum first.

Dan, "You're real choices are lifting the exsisting floor, or putting plywood over it before you tile."

Thanks, I realize this is the best way..just trying to save him so cash.

Mander, "The coating on the linoleum or sheet vinyl, whichever it is, wont allow for the peel and stick to actually stick because of the glossy surface below. Its like getting water to stick to a freshly waxed car...not gonna happen."

Hence the reason for this thread in the first place,try to find a product to put on the "Glossy" linoleum, to allow the peel and stick to do just that. Thanks

Thanks for all the fast answers guys...

[short circuit]

I've used peel and stick tiles on different surfaces and even though it has a glue on it I always put extra adhesive as if it wasn't a stick and peel. I use the stuff for plain tiles with the stick and peel and I've never had a problem.

[wslctrc]

try taking a drywall sanding pad/pole to the floor to dull the shine of the linoleum. move the stove out of the way , sand the floor and try a peel/stick tile to test the results. if it sticks do the rest of the floor if not, try extra adhesive with the tile.