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Braddon
05-22-2006, 06:58 PM
Just wondering if they are easy or hard to install?
I've got a 03 Grand Prix GT.. just wondering if any of you have had any experience with changing them? I recently bought some Xenon 9007 bulbs for it.

Dr.Dan
05-22-2006, 07:08 PM
Can't say I've ever done them on a GP before... but they shouldn't be that bad... they have to be accessable for replacement...

Check your owner's manual for instructions ;)

Braddon
05-22-2006, 09:11 PM
Alright sounds good.
Another Question is, I'm going to be installing a new short air intake...
I've read that short air is definetly better than a cool air intake, as it isn't as low, doesn't suck up water and as much dirt... any word on that ?

Dr.Dan
05-22-2006, 09:22 PM
First, back on the bulbs... DO NOT TOUCH THE GLASS OF THE BULB.
*Just incase you didn't already know that* ;)

Intakes... what you said is true... you go through a downpour and you could be suckin water... and destroy your engine :eek:

Short run (warm air) is better for daily driven vehicles than Long run (cool air)

Braddon
05-23-2006, 12:42 PM
Thanks :)
And yes, I know all about not touching the glass, haha. I iknew that before hand, and then on the packaging, it has in big letters "WARNING DO NOT TOUCH GLASS, THESE LIGHTS ARE FILLED WITH A XENON GAS" etc etc

sickcars
05-23-2006, 02:51 PM
First, back on the bulbs... DO NOT TOUCH THE GLASS OF THE BULB.
*Just incase you didn't already know that* ;)

Intakes... what you said is true... you go through a downpour and you could be suckin water... and destroy your engine :eek:

Short run (warm air) is better for daily driven vehicles than Long run (cool air)

Hmm just wondering why you say a Short intake is better for daily Drivers? Is it just because you will eventually be caught in a bad storm and the longer intake can/will suck up water? Or is there another reason behind this?

Thanks

Dr.Dan
05-23-2006, 04:24 PM
Hmm just wondering why you say a Short intake is better for daily Drivers? Is it just because you will eventually be caught in a bad storm and the longer intake can/will suck up water? Or is there another reason behind this?
That's exactly what happens... but it doesn't have to be a bad storm either... just a good downpour leaves enough water on the road
Or even if you hit a puddle... you know the ones that spray water 20 feet away.

Most guys I know run short on the street, and long only when at the track.

Another option is to get the AEM bypass valve (http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=3)

sickcars
05-23-2006, 05:28 PM
That's exactly what happens... but it doesn't have to be a bad storm either... just a good downpour leaves enough water on the road
Or even if you hit a puddle... you know the ones that spray water 20 feet away.

Most guys I know run short on the street, and long only when at the track.

Another option is to get the AEM bypass valve (http://www.aempower.com/product_intake.asp?subCatID=3)


Thanks :)

Braddon
05-24-2006, 09:12 AM
With the short air I wouldn't need to get one of those water filters would I ?

sickcars
05-24-2006, 09:18 AM
With the short air I wouldn't need to get one of those water filters would I ?


No you should not if its a Short Air intake.

Dr.Dan
05-24-2006, 10:09 AM
No, they are just a safety measure to use if you have the cool air set-up.

They open up and let air come in there if your cool air dips into water and prevents sucking it up ;)

But it doesn't do anything for the small amounts of water you can get... that will still damage air flow meters
That's why I still recommend the warm air set-up

Braddon
05-24-2006, 12:17 PM
Cool :) The warm air is still going to be better for my engine, even though it's not down so low, right ?

Dr.Dan
05-24-2006, 09:31 PM
ANYTHING is better than the restrictive OEM intake system ;)

Braddon
05-25-2006, 06:18 PM
awsome..
do you think there is really a huge difference in the intake if it's a name brand like AEM or K & N, or if it's a no name straight from the factory ?

DazedNConfuzed
05-25-2006, 06:57 PM
a tube is a tube.

make sure to get a good filter.

Dr.Dan
05-26-2006, 09:52 AM
awsome..
do you think there is really a huge difference in the intake if it's a name brand like AEM or K & N, or if it's a no name straight from the factory ?
Yes, there are differences... to say a tube is a tube only proves one thing... :huu:

I know AEM spends $million + on R&D of a single intake system, and they also dyno test and tune them to get every last HP out...

Now, do you need that for street use? No... But for a track car, every lil bit adds up.
And if you're really serious about performance, you wouldn't get big heavy 20" wheels either..
Every ounce extra of unspring weight greatly hurts performance ;)

So for your use, anything that looks pretty will do you just fine :)

DazedNConfuzed
05-26-2006, 11:57 AM
Yes, there are differences... to say a tube is a tube only proves one thing... :huu:

I know AEM spends $million + on R&D of a single intake system, and they also dyno test and tune them to get every last HP out...

Now, do you need that for street use? No... But for a track car, every lil bit adds up.
And if you're really serious about performance, you wouldn't get big heavy 20" wheels either..
Every ounce extra of unspring weight greatly hurts performance ;)

So for your use, anything that looks pretty will do you just fine :)

I was referring to his use only.

But you are every bit correct.

Mr. Apollo
05-26-2006, 05:46 PM
Yes, there are differences... to say a tube is a tube only proves one thing... :huu:

I know AEM spends $million + on R&D of a single intake system, and they also dyno test and tune them to get every last HP out...

Now, do you need that for street use? No... But for a track car, every lil bit adds up.
And if you're really serious about performance, you wouldn't get big heavy 20" wheels either..
Every ounce extra of unspring weight greatly hurts performance ;)

So for your use, anything that looks pretty will do you just fine :) Maybe, but you'll be lucky to get 5 extra horsepower with them plus you sometimes lose a bit of torque. At least that's been my experience.

Dr.Dan
05-26-2006, 07:17 PM
Loose torque? Are you using the SOTP (seat of the pants) dyno or a real dyno to measure that??

I know allot of the time it feels like you've lost torque because it's a smoother curve, but usually, if run on a dyno, you'll see it hasn't lost any...
Sometimes the torque curve is moved up higher in the rmp range too (not a good thing IMO ;))

Where allot of people loose torque is in an over-sized exhaust system.
Too big is worse than too small.

Braddon
05-27-2006, 04:08 AM
you gain torque from what i've read when you add in a new intake

Steve
05-28-2006, 03:13 AM
you cant rely on aem's dyno to determine the "best" intake. all companies dyno on there own ideal conditions. since each intake dyno from the company uses different conditions, then they cannot be compared. for the most part, many intakes have the same angle bends and sized tube, so in most cases, an intake is an intake. also, a k&n style filter performs as good as a k&n cone filter usually. go for whats cheap, as you wont notice a diff in performance.