How does one go about getting info about a person overseas in regards to selling? [Archive]

DreamLord34

10-03-2006, 09:31 PM

A friend has apparently ordered a couple chihuahuas from a guy named Marshall Wenong from Yaounde, Camaroon.
She was told she didn't have to pay until she saw the dogs when they arrived in Toronto. That in itself, seems scammish to me, even though he hasn't asked for cash, yet.
It's being flown in from Yaounde-Nsimalen Airport.
The site he had given her in regards to tracking was http://www.pettransport.ripod.com which I think should have been http://www.pettransport.tripod.com instead but it doesn't exsist.
When payment is to be made, she is to send it to Leubja Maxime Cameroon Yaounde +237 which I can't find info about either.

Any thoughts or ideas as to how to get more info about this?

mander

10-03-2006, 09:59 PM

My first question would be...why not buy locally...secondly, do they have all of the proper shots in the first place to even be allowed here? Importing animals can be a scary process. If they are not out any money at all at this point...tell them just to forget it....lesson learned. There are breeders locally that will sell vet checked animals. JMO

DreamLord34

10-03-2006, 10:17 PM

That's what I told her but she thinks they are so cute.

Nave

10-03-2006, 11:57 PM

plenty of cuties at the pet shelter

DazedNConfuzed

10-04-2006, 01:05 AM

plenty of cuties at the pet shelter

+1

however, I don't really see a problem YET.
If she inspects them as I assume she is going to do, and the dogs get a clean bill of health and make positive they got necessary shots, she pays, transaction is smooth and finished.

If she doesn't like the dogs, and/or something is wrong, send them back upon expense of the individual who sent them originally. I suppose?

ps. none of those links worked.

Just Doug1

10-04-2006, 06:39 AM

First read up on rabies in the Cameroon and consider the import restrictions on animals from rabies-endemic countries.

Then consider...

http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/305969.html

http://www.poloniainfo.com/chihuahua-dog-scam.html

Now, give me an hour on Google and I could find all sorts of adorable chihuahua pics too.

And I think I still have a free webspace somewhere to "set up shop".

Next...

Find a reputable breeder closer to home.

Mouse

10-04-2006, 10:23 AM

The quarantine period could be prohibitive when you have to pay the room & board for your precious bundles.

The term "false economy" comes to mind.

Tess

10-04-2006, 10:23 AM

Check out some breeders here if she absolutely must have purebred.

Then do some research on puppy mills, if they are that willing to send puppies all over the world and put them through that trauma for a buck they are most likely pupply mills. Read what reputable breeders here offer with a puppy, blood lines, health guarantees, proper socialization etc.

Pets are a long committment and responsibility, having an properly socialized, and well behaved animal that isnt sickly (vet's are expensive) all it's life is worth the time and effort, you can get that at a breeder and/or a shelter.

Really bad idea in my opinion, and just asking for trouble.

It requires some thought, it's not just a pair of shoes you can throw away if you find you dont like them.

Mouse

10-04-2006, 10:27 AM

Maybe it's me, but I wonder why people come to the Board after-the-fact??

I know in this case it's not a Board member doing the ordering, but that is not always true.

Tess

10-04-2006, 10:34 AM

Maybe it's me, but I wonder why people come to the Board after-the-fact??

I know in this case it's not a Board member doing the ordering, but that is not always true.

Good point, because it's a done deal, our input is moot.

However he's really only asking how to find info on said 'breeder'.

Nave

10-04-2006, 11:33 AM

Thats true Tess.

i guess in this case none of our responses were helpful, because this is after the fact, If she doesnt have to pay a dime till she sees the puppy doesnt seem like a scammish thing to do. When she see's them in Toronto she will and she can pay. If they dont make it to toronto then she doesnt have to pay.. right?

Tess

10-04-2006, 12:32 PM

I think some are, the quarantine thing may be of huge importance, because if there is a quarantine, she'll most likely pay for that boarding and upkeep during it as a part of dealing with customs.

Mouse

10-04-2006, 12:33 PM

HEY, check post #7. :tooths:

Tess

10-04-2006, 12:44 PM

HEY, check post #7. :tooths:

I was expanding on your point. I thought you would realize that. :tch:

DreamLord34

10-04-2006, 01:14 PM

Wow, I need to catch up. Never got any emails about getting replies. :(

Dazed, the thing that irks me is that this guy is willing to spend a few huindred dollars to send them to T.O. with the chance of the dogs getting rejected where he then has to spend more to bring them back. That doesn't sound right at all. As for the links, sorry, shoulda mentioned that. That's the other reason why I think it's fishy.

Just Doug, I told her a few times to look around here again.
They already have a pit bull & a chihuahua from around here.

Tess, they know about the pubby mills. Her mom has had a few different pitbulls as well in the past. Both current dogs are just big babies.

Mousey, I just found out myself shortly before I posted actually. She had asked me to help get more info on this.

Nave, that's the part that doesn't make sense. She was told, if she likes what she sees, she only pays $290 total. So why is the guy going to spend a few hundred just to make a few hundred?

DreamLord34

10-04-2006, 05:30 PM

UPDATE: this is the link he meant to send her.

http://pettransport.tripod.com/tracking1.html
Does it look legit?
They havn't been sent yet. Not untill tomorrow night.

mitch

10-04-2006, 09:34 PM

When I brought my dog back with me from the UK over 10 years ago..
It cost me 160.00 for the flight.. (that didn't include the shipping crate)
There was also no need for the pup to be quarantined as the UK was rabies free

I just find it strange that they they would pay to ship on the chance she may say no

DreamLord34

10-04-2006, 09:38 PM

I just find it strange that they they would pay to ship on the chance she may say no

That's what I think as well.

Just Doug1

10-05-2006, 07:22 AM

UPDATE: this is the link he meant to send her.

http://pettransport.tripod.com/tracking1.html
Does it look legit?
They havn't been sent yet. Not untill tomorrow night.

If you look at the page source data, you will find that it was written specifically for this "sale" and is not any form of order tracking page I've ever seen.

A reputable dealer would make transaction details available only to the purchaser.

I'm sure that the intended purchaser is just thrilled having their name and home address posted for the world to see on a Tripod site.

I wonder how many similar scams they will now be the target of?

DreamLord34

10-05-2006, 10:24 AM

That's what I wondered about as well. I use the netcraft toolbar which also gives me info about websites that I view and it didn't have much.

MiamiGal

12-21-2006, 12:47 PM

With the information you provided and the link to the puppy scam, you just saved me $200 Let me show you an example of what happened to me, This is the last email that the fraud sent today!!!:
Hello,
I have been wondering whats going on.Hope thats your address below?You should do it through walmart moneygram.Just go to anymoneygram agent.You should send the moneys to the address below and get back to me with the senders name and reference number.
Name: Leubja Maxime
Addres: Scottsville Ky
If the address that appears is not your real address then let me get a detailed one.The puppy will reach you by 4pm tommorow.
Thanks

Can you believe it? I am a smart girl who was suspicious from the beginning, but he assured me not to be skeptical that he worked for missionary fathers, bornagain org.

I googled the name: Leubja Maxime

And this forum came up. I have joined The Computer Mechanics specifically to THANK YOU for the info!

Have a wonderful Holiday Season!
Pamela

Mouse

12-21-2006, 12:52 PM

Wecome aboard.

Wish I was there.

:)

DreamLord34

12-21-2006, 01:02 PM

Your best bet to get a puppy would be to check out www.petfinder.com or the local shelter.
Never buy anything live from overseas like that.

MiamiGal

12-21-2006, 10:07 PM

Tess

12-21-2006, 11:18 PM

Of the 4 people I tried to contact regarding a Yorkie on line, they were all fraudulent!! One of the 4, I found on petfinder.com. Tomorrow morning we will be going to check out our local pet shelter. Thank you very much for your thoughts and advice.
Have a great holiday!
Pamela
ps Who can I add a pic to my profile. :tch:

Hi and Welcome

Across the top of the page you'll see a USER CP (Control Panel)
In there you will find a section called AVATAR, upload one from your hard drive from there.

Have you tried local breeders? Here in Canada I searched for Breeders of Persian Cats through the Cat Fanciers (there is also a Dog Fancier) In the states I believe it's networked through American Dog Breeders Association.

I found a wonderful breeder outside of London, Ont. (less than 200 miles away). I wouldnt however commit to anything unless I could see the animal and meet the breeder.

DreamLord34

12-22-2006, 02:32 AM

joanna 22

09-08-2007, 06:12 AM

Do not order antthing from marshall wenong AKAJames or post any money through moneygram or money transfers, mr wenong scammed me out of £300 last december when i ordered a so called "chihuahua" from him! It's a huge scam and he is found on many different websites wanting money sent to the cameroon but he uses different adds and names, i have so far found him selling rare birds and chihuahuas, if you are going to send him money stop now you will receive no chihuahua, i was devastated and i don't want anybody else going through the same thing as me, probably best to find a breeder and speak to them in person. Please don't let him scam you aswell
thankyou
yours sincerely
Miss freyja w