I would like to say thank you....

[I LIKE EGGS]

I would like to say thank you....

Thank you for idiotic way you drive when it rains.

Thank you for not taking your time in the rain thus causing an accident and ruining that persons day or everyone elses for that matter.

Thank you for causing complete gridlock today.

Thank you for the 2 hours of traffic I had to indure....hey it's not like I had anything else to do today.

Thank you for your complete lack of common sense by getting out of the slow lane to drive down the merge lane so that you could get 10 cars ahead thus pushing me back a car length and then other drivers do the same by following your lead.

Thank you for not waiting in line in the merge lane and then teaching the drivers to follow your lead thus not allowing me to move at all while everyone else gets on the highway and I sit there like I am in a parking lot.

Thank you for driving down the shoulder so that you can get 2 cars ahead after the merge lane has ended.

Thank you for not waiting in the turning lane but using the through lane as another turning lane....filing up a 2nd lane so that the people waiting at the red light cannot cross.

Thank you for not waiting behind the white line at the intersection in traffic and are now stuck in the middle of the intersection so that when my light turns green I cannot go because the side of your car is in my way.

Thank you for talking on your cell phone in the fast lane and doing 95KPH.

Thank you for doing your make up in traffic and not moving ahead so that the entire city driving on the on ramp can get on.

Thank you for taking traffic time to clean your entire car. Again much like the make up lady has shown me...there is so much gratification in letting the entire city of whitby merge onto the highway in front of me.

Thank you for showing me that your time is far more valuble than mine by cutting me off so you can get one more car ahead thus making it to work .000000002 seconds faster than me.

Thank you for not letting me into another lane when the lane I am in has an accident....however you expect others to let you in when you are being a merge whore.

Thank you for not knowing you are going to be exiting right when you are 3 lanes over to the left and waiting the last minute to change all 3 lanes.

Thank you for not having common sense, courtesy and compassion for everyone on the road when we all clearly are trying to achieve the same goal.....getting to work. Apparently your job and you are far more important than the 400000 + trying to get to work.

You know who you are. *SMACK* get some FN common sense A HOLE!!! You can thank me for the smack later.

[Bogie]

This is one of those days when I truly appreciated working from home ... not a long drive at all :d

But the above does remind of each time I drive into Toronto
:ttt:

[Mouse]

I did hear some ugly things about the 401 this morning while at Timmie's. :(

It should be smooth sailing for me this evening. :d

Always is. :d :d

[Exmortis]

You're very welcome, Eggs. Anything to make your day better.

[I LIKE EGGS]

You're very welcome, Eggs. Anything to make your day better.

LOL *shakes fist*


This is one of those days when I truly appreciated working from home ... not a long drive at all :d

But the above does remind of each time I drive into Toronto

It was 2 hours from Oshawa to Pickering this morning. I cannot imagine how long it would have taken to get to TO.

[Dr.Dan]

Oshawa to Pickering? Isn't that normally like a 20 minute drive??

I heard it was bad on the west side this morning... never heard anything about the east side...

[Law]

pfft ajax to pickering took me over 30 minutes just now , its terrible.

[Walter]

Possible candidate for road rage? I try to spend my time concentrating on my driving rather than getting upset about what other drivers do........I watch them but that is about it.


I would like to say thank you....

Thank you for idiotic way you drive when it rains.

Thank you for not taking your time in the rain thus causing an accident and ruining that persons day or everyone elses for that matter.

Thank you for causing complete gridlock today.

Thank you for the 2 hours of traffic I had to indure....hey it's not like I had anything else to do today.

Thank you for your complete lack of common sense by getting out of the slow lane to drive down the merge lane so that you could get 10 cars ahead thus pushing me back a car length and then other drivers do the same by following your lead.

Thank you for not waiting in line in the merge lane and then teaching the drivers to follow your lead thus not allowing me to move at all while everyone else gets on the highway and I sit there like I am in a parking lot.

Thank you for driving down the shoulder so that you can get 2 cars ahead after the merge lane has ended.

Thank you for not waiting in the turning lane but using the through lane as another turning lane....filing up a 2nd lane so that the people waiting at the red light cannot cross.

Thank you for not waiting behind the white line at the intersection in traffic and are now stuck in the middle of the intersection so that when my light turns green I cannot go because the side of your car is in my way.

Thank you for talking on your cell phone in the fast lane and doing 95KPH.

Thank you for doing your make up in traffic and not moving ahead so that the entire city driving on the on ramp can get on.

Thank you for taking traffic time to clean your entire car. Again much like the make up lady has shown me...there is so much gratification in letting the entire city of whitby merge onto the highway in front of me.

Thank you for showing me that your time is far more valuble than mine by cutting me off so you can get one more car ahead thus making it to work .000000002 seconds faster than me.

Thank you for not letting me into another lane when the lane I am in has an accident....however you expect others to let you in when you are being a merge whore.

Thank you for not knowing you are going to be exiting right when you are 3 lanes over to the left and waiting the last minute to change all 3 lanes.

Thank you for not having common sense, courtesy and compassion for everyone on the road when we all clearly are trying to achieve the same goal.....getting to work. Apparently your job and you are far more important than the 400000 + trying to get to work.

You know who you are. *SMACK* get some FN common sense A HOLE!!! You can thank me for the smack later.

[I LIKE EGGS]

Possible candidate for road rage? I try to spend my time concentrating on my driving rather than getting upset about what other drivers do........I watch them but that is about it.

If I were to be a candidate for road rage Walter....you would have already felt my wrath. It's the ones like yourself that concentrate only on what you do that led me to my rant. People should be watching & aware of everyone around them and not have tunnel vision and concentrate solely on themselves. It's people that only take care of themselves that are responsible for bad driving. Wedging yourself in between 2 cars when there is only 1.5 car lengths, cell phone drivers in the fast lane.....doing 90kph, getting out of your lane to drive up the merge lane so you can get ahead of 3 cars.....are all signs of people "concentrating" on their own driving.

[Walter]

If I were to be a candidate for road rage Walter....you would have already felt my wrath. It's the ones like yourself that concentrate only on what you do that led me to my rant. People should be watching & aware of everyone around them and not have tunnel vision and concentrate solely on themselves. It's people that only take care of themselves that are responsible for bad driving. Wedging yourself in between 2 cars when there is only 1.5 car lengths, cell phone drivers in the fast lane.....doing 90kph, getting out of your lane to drive up the merge lane so you can get ahead of 3 cars.....are all signs of people "concentrating" on their own driving.

Your opening comment says it all........

Read what I said......getting upset about what other drivers do........I watch them but that is about it.

I don't see how you can concentrate on your driving while your brain is multi-tasking.

[I LIKE EGGS]

Your opening comment says it all........

Read what I said......getting upset about what other drivers do........I watch them but that is about it.

I don't see how you can concentrate on your driving while your brain is multi-tasking.

First of all....what comment says it all???

Secondly.....watching them does not solve the problem...thus why I commented in hopes that someone who is responsible for these actions may take it and actually do something about it.

And finally, I don't know about you....but driving is not based on a single thought process....it requires multitasking. That is why we as humans are technically not capable of driving efficiently due to the ammount of multitasking required to drive 100% effectively. Our brain and our bodies are not designed to be flawless when it comes to driving. In fact we would require 3 more sets of eyes, an extra leg and 2 more arms. So in fact driving IS a multitasking action.

[I LIKE EGGS]

And Walter....even if you do not believe the above post. Answer me this......

Have you ever been driving and listening to the radio or thought about what you wanted for dinner or that you needed to pay a bill when you get home? If so...you to were multitasking and therefore NOT concentrating strictly on driving according to you.

[Walter]

And Walter....even if you do not believe the above post. Answer me this......

Have you ever been driving and listening to the radio or thought about what you wanted for dinner or that you needed to pay a bill when you get home? If so...you to were multitasking and therefore NOT concentrating strictly on driving according to you.

Maybe my chipset is a little more powerful because in 40+ years I have never filed an insurance claim and the three accidents I have been involved in could be considered minor and fault is a matter of interpretation. I am a four point driver.

[I LIKE EGGS]

Maybe my chipset is a little more powerful because in 40+ years I have never filed an insurance claim and the three accidents I have been involved in could be considered minor and fault is a matter of interpretation. I am a four point driver.

Having 40 years experience does not make you a great driver. Nor does it make you more alert. To me that is just 40 years of potential bad habits that have been accumulated. The majority of the licensed world could re-take their driver testing again and I bet you ballz to bones that most of the older generation vs the youngins would fail due to force of habit. With driving, older does not always make you wiser. If that was the case everyone from age 65 to 80+ would not require re-testing.

And just because you have not filed an insurance claim does not change the fact that you have been involved in an accident. I have had 2 accidents and only one claim.....so that means jack. One was my fault and the other was not. As for an accident being considered minor to me just means no one died. However an accident is an accident.....by definition.

And as far as interpretataion of whom is the cause and has to assume responsibility and what percentage of responsibility is still an accident regardless of intrepretation. Who's interpretation? Yours, the other's involved, the police or the insurance company? Every accident has someone at fault and in some cases can be both involved that are at fault. So this does not make you any more alert, aware, defensive, offensive or better than anyone else. Everyone makes haste decisions when driving....some good....most bad.

As for a 4 point driver....I am not sure what that is supposed to mean.....by definition of course. You have only lost 4 points? Or you are a 4 star driver? Sorry I do not understand the terminology.

[Quintin]

You have only lost 4 points?
you don't lose points.....you gain demerits just thought I'd point that out

[Quintin]

Must be a great burden being perfect



I would like to say thank you....

Thank you for idiotic way you drive when it rains.

Thank you for not taking your time in the rain thus causing an accident and ruining that persons day or everyone elses for that matter.

Thank you for causing complete gridlock today.

Thank you for the 2 hours of traffic I had to indure....hey it's not like I had anything else to do today.

Thank you for your complete lack of common sense by getting out of the slow lane to drive down the merge lane so that you could get 10 cars ahead thus pushing me back a car length and then other drivers do the same by following your lead.

Thank you for not waiting in line in the merge lane and then teaching the drivers to follow your lead thus not allowing me to move at all while everyone else gets on the highway and I sit there like I am in a parking lot.

Thank you for driving down the shoulder so that you can get 2 cars ahead after the merge lane has ended.

Thank you for not waiting in the turning lane but using the through lane as another turning lane....filing up a 2nd lane so that the people waiting at the red light cannot cross.

Thank you for not waiting behind the white line at the intersection in traffic and are now stuck in the middle of the intersection so that when my light turns green I cannot go because the side of your car is in my way.

Thank you for talking on your cell phone in the fast lane and doing 95KPH.

Thank you for doing your make up in traffic and not moving ahead so that the entire city driving on the on ramp can get on.

Thank you for taking traffic time to clean your entire car. Again much like the make up lady has shown me...there is so much gratification in letting the entire city of whitby merge onto the highway in front of me.

Thank you for showing me that your time is far more valuble than mine by cutting me off so you can get one more car ahead thus making it to work .000000002 seconds faster than me.

Thank you for not letting me into another lane when the lane I am in has an accident....however you expect others to let you in when you are being a merge whore.

Thank you for not knowing you are going to be exiting right when you are 3 lanes over to the left and waiting the last minute to change all 3 lanes.

Thank you for not having common sense, courtesy and compassion for everyone on the road when we all clearly are trying to achieve the same goal.....getting to work. Apparently your job and you are far more important than the 400000 + trying to get to work.

You know who you are. *SMACK* get some FN common sense A HOLE!!! You can thank me for the smack later.

[I LIKE EGGS]

Must be a great burden being perfect

Never said I was. Just pointing out my observations of what I witnessed on the way to work.

[Quintin]

Never said I was. Just pointing out my observations of what I witnessed on the way to work.
If you drive you have done some of the very same things you were saying thanks about.

[I LIKE EGGS]

If you drive you have done some of the very same things you were saying thanks about.

I beg to differ. I am very aware of the things I ranted about and an not the type of person that says do as I say not as I do.

[Bogie]

Over my many years I have had much driving experience, both professionally and personally. I have driven more miles in my first 15 years of driving than most will in their whole lifetime - and I have now been driving more than 40 years. Taken many courses in driving, defensive driving, cars, trucks, motorcycles, and military vehicles of all types.

The word "accident" is a misnomer in most vehicle collision scenarios. Just about all are avoidable by the parties involved.

#1 Don't let the idiot driver bother you ... it distracts you from your own driving safety. Hard at times, but your safety, and others around you, depend on cool heads

#2 Always watch out for the other guy. Watch out for kids running between cars. Look ahead. Be aware.

#3 Mentally plan alternatives if something should happen based on what you see ahead - as far as you see and locally. Over time this becomes an automatic mental process.

#4 If you must talk on your cell phone, ask the caller to wait while you pull over to somewhere safe to talk. Whether you like it or not, your mind concentrates on the caller and not the road. Handsfree or otherwise, makes no difference.

#5 If you have had an "accident" in the past, and it wasn't "your fault", could it have been avoided if you had been more aware, more safety concious, more cautious? Or do you think it was totally the "other guy's fault". Think about it.

#6 "Getting there" safely is what counts - it's not a race, and no one "wins" arriving first. "Not making the light" isn't the end of the world. Leave earlier if it is that important to arrive at a specific time. You can be early - it won't hurt to relax a bit

Driving a large truck, or tractor-trailer, teaches you a lot about driving awareness and safety. I know, there is a lot of bad drivers in that profession too, but most are very safety-concious. You have to be.

I've been in 3 minor collisions during my driving lifetime (all in my early years) - none classified as my fault .... but I could have avoided all 3 if I followed the above.

A temper has no place behind the wheel of a vehicle. Leave that part of you at home.

[Exmortis]

#5 If you have had an "accident" in the past, and it wasn't "your fault", could it have been avoided if you had been more aware, more safety concious, more cautious? Or do you think it was totally the "other guy's fault". Think about it.

In my wife's case, I don't think it was avoidable. Or if it was, it was for a split-second window. A woman ran the red light at an intersection and she was hidden by a line of minivans on the left turning lane. The corner of the intersection is also hidden by a high fence. The timing was perfect. She became visible as my wife was crossing the green light. The police investigation showed that that woman was going at 80Km/h (30 over the limit).

At the intersection in front of my apartment, a 27 year old girl was stopped a the red light behind a minivan. She got rear-ended by a transport truck drunk driver. Burst the gas tank and she burned alive (I could hear her scream). Are you suggesting it was her fault?

How about when someone speeds up on the 400 highway going the wrong way like it happened a few weeks ago? Are you absolutely sure how easily avoidable it is at 100Km/h (and the other coming at the same speed)?

[I LIKE EGGS]

Over my many years I have had much driving experience, both professionally and personally. I have driven more miles in my first 15 years of driving than most will in their whole lifetime - and I have now been driving more than 40 years. Taken many courses in driving, defensive driving, cars, trucks, motorcycles, and military vehicles of all types.

The word "accident" is a misnomer in most vehicle collision scenarios. Just about all are avoidable by the parties involved.

#1 Don't let the idiot driver bother you ... it distracts you from your own driving safety. Hard at times, but your safety, and others around you, depend on cool heads

#2 Always watch out for the other guy. Watch out for kids running between cars. Look ahead. Be aware.

#3 Mentally plan alternatives if something should happen based on what you see ahead - as far as you see and locally. Over time this becomes an automatic mental process.

#4 If you must talk on your cell phone, ask the caller to wait while you pull over to somewhere safe to talk. Whether you like it or not, your mind concentrates on the caller and not the road. Handsfree or otherwise, makes no difference.

#5 If you have had an "accident" in the past, and it wasn't "your fault", could it have been avoided if you had been more aware, more safety concious, more cautious? Or do you think it was totally the "other guy's fault". Think about it.

#6 "Getting there" safely is what counts - it's not a race, and no one "wins" arriving first. "Not making the light" isn't the end of the world. Leave earlier if it is that important to arrive at a specific time. You can be early - it won't hurt to relax a bit

Driving a large truck, or tractor-trailer, teaches you a lot about driving awareness and safety. I know, there is a lot of bad drivers in that profession too, but most are very safety-concious. You have to be.

I've been in 3 minor collisions during my driving lifetime (all in my early years) - none classified as my fault .... but I could have avoided all 3 if I followed the above.

A temper has no place behind the wheel of a vehicle. Leave that part of you at home.

Well said and I totally agree. I did not get angry nor experience the need for road rage. It just really disappoints me to see the lack of human respect when it comes down to a situation where everyone is in the same boat. It is literally at times like rats in a cage, and you open the door and they all come piling out.......I just wish people were more aware of these situations....that was the whole reason for my rant. I took it out on this thread and NOT on the road....I believe that was the wise choice and yet got flak for my works and was not praised by my actions. And for that I would also like to THANK YOU ALL!!! :mbx:

...however according to Walter isn't this multitasking??? :hys:.

[Quintin]

I beg to differ. I am very aware of the things I ranted about and an not the type of person that says do as I say not as I do.
Sorry just noticed putting makeup on was one.

[Bogie]

In my wife's case, I don't think it was avoidable. Or if it was, it was for a split-second window. A woman ran the red light at an intersection and she was hidden by a line of minivans on the left turning lane. The corner of the intersection is also hidden by a high fence. The timing was perfect. She became visible as my wife was crossing the green light. The police investigation showed that that woman was going at 80Km/h (30 over the limit).

At the intersection in front of my apartment, a 27 year old girl was stopped a the red light behind a minivan. She got rear-ended by a transport truck drunk driver. Burst the gas tank and she burned alive (I could hear her scream). Are you suggesting it was her fault?

How about when someone speeds up on the 400 highway going the wrong way like it happened a few weeks ago? Are you absolutely sure how easily avoidable it is at 100Km/h (and the other coming at the same speed)?

First, note that I stated: "The word 'accident' is a misnomer in most vehicle collision scenarios. Just about all are avoidable by the parties involved."

That said, I can comment on the recent Hwy 400 "accident". No one, at this time, anyway, seems to know exactly what happened. I know that spot on the 400 very well, travel it almost every day while crossing Barrie, and it has been the scene of many pile-ups. #1 problem is speed. The 400 through Barrie has an average speed of 120km per hour, through a heavily populated and high traffic area, with lots of on and off ramps - and curving highway. Speed is a big factor when it comes down to reaction time. Only speculation at this point, but if she was in the "fast" inside lane, where it appears the collision happened, she was moving at a good clip - very little time to react to anything happening. That lane is always 120+. At those speeds any "accident" is bad. If speed was a factor, then, yes, it may have been avoidable by the "innocent" party. Speed limit is 100, and even that is too fast for Hwy 400 through the Barrie area. Rarely does anybody go that "slow". "Eye on the road ahead", expect the unexpected, that curve is a little "blind", slow down and take care. Off and On ramp at that location, overpass, high traffic, and curve to the right. All factors ... factors to take into consideration when driving. Not faulting her (the victim), but pointing out how avoidance may have been possible.

That incidence, you mention, where that girl was burned - very unfortunate and don't see how she could have avoided the "accident". I don't know ... she might not have avoided having her car hit, but maybe getting out in time to avoid or lessen injuries, by watching what was coming behind .. don't know all the circumstances. I can remember getting out of my car twice, since I've started driving, when caught like a rat in a trap and a vehicle bearing down on me and having it look like I was going to be hit. Once it hit the vehicle beside me, and another time the offender took to the ditch.

Your wife's incident - scary stuff. Those situations scare me every time - have had a few close calls, myself, at blind intersections. I bet she really slows down now when she sees a similar set-up, I know I do, and sometimes almost stop until I can see. Peeves off people behind me, but I don't care .... better safe than sorry. I learned through near-misses.

When driving transport I saw many accidents take place right before my eyes. Cars flying through the air like on Dukes of Hazard, people dying, people seriously injured, and many with just minor injuries. One where a speeding Monte Carlo, going very fast on Hwy 11 north, just south of Gravenhurst, just clipped a car that they didn't get by in time, and it went airborne. Flipped upside down while in the air, smashed to the ground, slid across the highway towards a gas station and the pumps. Stopped just short. 7 people inside all climbed out through the rear smashed window. No serious injuries. Thought that I was watching a movie scene.

Green light means that you have "the right of way", but don't take that "right' for granted. There is always some idiot who isn't watching, who is drunk, who is on the cellphone, who was blinded by the setting sun, or whatever. Expect it, look for it.