View Full Version : Can anyone give me at least a rough idea on how much this would cost?
Mr. Apollo
04-12-2007, 11:50 AM
I have two bathrooms in which I want to convert the existing to handle bathtub facuet over to a single one. Now I know you can just buy adapter plates, but that isn't an option since the bathtubs are frequently used.
I know I'll have to call in a pro for this, but what needs to be done is remove the old faucet and install the new handle plus spout. Making things more difficult is the fact that the shower/tub is fully tiled. However, I do have several boxes of spare tiles left over from the construction of the house so replacing them isn't an issue. As well the back side of the facuect wall is easily accessable.
I have the new faucets, all I need is for someone to come in and do the work. Would one guy be able to do this or would I have to call a plumber and then a tile guy? What kind of cost am I looking at here?
I can provide pictures if it would help.
SPARKY
04-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Pictures would give better idea of what's involved.
T_Totler
04-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Would one guy be able to do this or would I have to call a plumber and then a tile guy?
Depending on how much of a "handyman" you are, you could probably do the tiling yourself. It's not that difficult :)
BillD
04-12-2007, 07:22 PM
As I see it, only the taps will change position. The old spout can be screwed off and be replaced with the new one. So basically, you need to remove the old taps, I assume by removing a section of the drywall on the wall behind. The new tap will require a new hole, and the old holes will have to be covered, both the drywall and the tiles. Removing the old tiles without damaging the backboard, unless it is Durock, is sure to be problematic. You have plumbing, drywalling, and tiling. There are people that do all three. You must really want these new taps badly to go to all that trouble and expense. Personally, I would only do that with a complete retrofit.
T_Totler
04-12-2007, 07:27 PM
lovey is a plumber so hopefully he'll see this thread and provide you with some good advice :)
Aristera
04-12-2007, 07:44 PM
For all of that work I would estime $600-$1000 for the plumbing, tile work and repairing the wall depending on complications and what you find inside.
Important questions!!!!
How old is the bathroom and how old are the tiles?
If the tiles have been there for more than 5 years or so, replacement tiles will always look like a replacement. The existing tiles may have fadded slightly and the grout won't quite match either comparded to the existing tiles and grout.
Open any wall and there is a good chance you will find water, mould and even rot. Additional sections may requre replacement or repair which may add additional cost to any estimate.
Replacing taps is one thing but to move them is usualy reserved for a bath reno due to the cost and effort. Unless I'm not understanding exactly what you trying to do, please posts some pictures.
Mr. Apollo
04-13-2007, 09:06 AM
I'll post some pictures later today.
Rustynut
04-13-2007, 09:23 AM
Take a little side trip to your favourite Home Reno store like Rona or Home Depot.
Have some measurements at hand and then price out the cost of the materials.
A good single control filler / shower unit is made by Möen which are easily repaired for leaks just by replacing a cartridge.
Requirements today now dictate an anti-scald valve in the controls to prevent a rush when someone flushes while someone is showering, be sure to consider that as well.
As for the rest well depening on how handy you are the price can vary.
If you can solder and use a measuring tape you probably can do it yourself if you have the drive to do it.
If you don't feel comfortable with the plumbing then hire a good turd wrangler to do it for you. Sometimes they can supply better quality taps than can be had at retail or give a better price with the package deal.
Mr. Apollo
04-13-2007, 09:41 AM
Take a little side trip to your favourite Home Reno store like Rona or Home Depot.
Have some measurements at hand and then price out the cost of the materials.
A good single control filler / shower unit is made by Möen which are easily repaired for leaks just by replacing a cartridge.
Requirements today now dictate an anti-scald valve in the controls to prevent a rush when someone flushes while someone is showering, be sure to consider that as well.
As for the rest well depening on how handy you are the price can vary.
If you can solder and use a measuring tape you probably can do it yourself if you have the drive to do it.
If you don't feel comfortable with the plumbing then hire a good turd wrangler to do it for you. Sometimes they can supply better quality taps than can be had at retail or give a better price with the package deal.I already have the faucets. I just want someone to do the actual installation. I suppose I could do it myself but I really don't have the time. Since I'm not a professional it would take me 10 times longer to do it.
lovey
04-15-2007, 10:51 AM
mr apollo,please show me some pic,s of what you have installed right now and can you tell me what make of faucet you bought to replace it with,I,ll try to help you out
Mr. Apollo
04-15-2007, 07:31 PM
OK, this is the setup that I have right now.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8544/hpim0496yo2.jpg
I want to convert it to this type of setup.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/4958/faucetyr4.jpg
In the case of both washrooms, the wall behind the shower faucet is completely accessable. In one the wall is covered in drywall and in the other it's cover with tile.
I already have the facuets and tile, I just need someone to do the actual work. The faucet set I have is a Price Pfister set that loks like this:
http://www.pricepfister.com/website/documents/Products/PRD_11rod_14271_1834.jpg
lovey
04-16-2007, 08:18 PM
ok,mr apollo,you will have to do some tile repair as what you have is a waltec tub and shower control,very old indead,your old control is too close to the top of your tub,the spout should be atleast 5 inches from the top of yuor tub and the control should be atleast 3 feet from the bottom of your tub for easy access,I,am a plumber not a tile guy but you are looking at alot of work as it ain,t easy to redo plumbing in a wall,not your do your self type of project.Soldering in a wall ain,t easy as it has to be plumb and level so as the cover plate will look good
Mr. Apollo
04-16-2007, 08:24 PM
ok,mr apollo,you will have to do some tile repair as what you have is a waltec tub and shower control,very old indead,your old control is too close to the top of your tub,the spout should be atleast 5 inches from the top of yuor tub and the control should be atleast 3 feet from the bottom of your tub for easy access,I,am a plumber not a tile guy but you are looking at alot of work as it ain,t easy to redo plumbing in a wall,not your do your self type of project.Soldering in a wall ain,t easy as it has to be plumb and level so as the cover plate will look goodYes, this is why I want someone to do it for me. I just wanted a very rough idea of the cost. The fixtures are about 24 years old. To simplify things, do they make faucets like I have installed right now? I need the spout so just putting in one of those cover plates to hide the hole from the two handle fixture isn't an option.
Aristera
04-16-2007, 08:42 PM
I just noticed that the tile you have in the shower is also by the toilet so I bet it wraps around the wall as well which is about at the height that you will need the controls at, meaning that you can't get into the wall from behind with out tearing down tiles from there too so anyone would be working from the front.
Either way I would say your looking at about a grand of work per bathroom to revise my earlier estimate. Money better spent in a reno unless you really want those facuetes.
lovey
04-16-2007, 08:50 PM
to answer your question apollo,no they don,t have faucets like that anymore,a cover plate won,t help you as the faucet you have right now is to close to the tub lip,you can still get replacment parts for that faucet if it leaking and that,s your concern or to do what you want to too is going to cost alot of money
Mr. Apollo
04-16-2007, 08:58 PM
Well that sucks. :\
T_Totler
04-16-2007, 09:06 PM
Well that sucks. :\
Plumbing's not cheap, especially if you want it done right.
You might be best to "bite the bullet" and get it done the right way as lovey suggests. It's not like you will have to spend this $$ every year. This is a one-time home improvement expense ;)
justabitcrazee
04-16-2007, 10:40 PM
You will have a much prettier place to get pretty :)
Aristera
04-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Get pretty?
Mr. Apollo
04-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Plumbing's not cheap, especially if you want it done right.
You might be best to "bite the bullet" and get it done the right way as lovey suggests. It's not like you will have to spend this $$ every year. This is a one-time home improvement expense ;)Yeah, I know, I know. It's just that there's no real incentive to get thw work done other than "It will look nice." Plus the ones I'm looking at getting done are the two main upstairs washrooms that everyone uses so them being out of action will lead to a lot of hassle.
lovey
04-17-2007, 05:00 PM
apollo,if you ever decide to get the work done may I suggest going with a better quality faucet such as moen,life time warrenty and the casting of the brass is much better,just a suggestion
Mr. Apollo
04-17-2007, 06:46 PM
That's what the builder put in. I won a full set of Price Fister faucets for my entire house a few years ago. Everything else has been replaced except for the those two show faucets.
lovey
04-18-2007, 05:10 PM
are you telling me that the faucet in your tub right now is moen? I have never seen one like that in canada.If so the plumber must of got a deal from some other country on them
Mr. Apollo
04-19-2007, 10:14 AM
are you telling me that the faucet in your tub right now is moen? I have never seen one like that in canada.If so the plumber must of got a deal from some other country on themNo, it's a Waltec 12. I just meant that I didn't have a choice in the matter, the faucet is just what the builder put in.
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