Recommended Video Software?

[The Auctioneer]

Hi

I have a series of video, 12 sessions which I own the copyright. Presently I have this video on DV tape. Over the years I have played around with 'Pinnacle' and done okay, I even managed one time to do a flash video of an auction sale I was having using Flash MX, (it turned out decent) so while I admit I'm a total amateur, I do have some experience capturing, converting, rendering and uploading. Presently I use Studio 8 and would like to take this series and create Flash movies or (?)movies which take the least bandwidth and are of good quality.

My question is not how to achieve this process, once I get into it things I'll figure the process out--my question is what software can I use/purchase which will bring me the results I desire.

Premier Pro CS3 I think this is the latest version of video editing software, but the cost is prohibitive, at least for me. However if this is the industry benchmark for VE, I may need to pool my resources and purchase. However before I take this leap, I need to be sure there isn't something else out there which will basicaly do the same thing, at less cost.

I look forward to your replies.

Thx
Bob

[Tim]

it's helpful to know what exactly do you want to do. If all you're going to do is very light editing (ie, trimming, cut/paste etc.) and rendering quicktime pro is my swiss army knife for web video. Then of course using flash8 pro video flv is going to be the best choice for delivering. Don't (!) use swf video, that's old, inefficient, and just plain crap compared to what's happening now.

[SPARKY]

You can try Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0 software for 30 days free ,if you like it you can buy it for $99 U.S.
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiereel/?sdid=YOAC

[The Auctioneer]

Hi Tim

This is probably a dumb question, but one that needs to be asked....

Flash 8 was bundled with my Studio 8 package and because I'm away on a trip right now, I can't check, is Flash Pro Video incl in my package?

Thx


it's helpful to know what exactly do you want to do. If all you're going to do is very light editing (ie, trimming, cut/paste etc.) and rendering quicktime pro is my swiss army knife for web video. Then of course using flash8 pro video flv is going to be the best choice for delivering. Don't (!) use swf video, that's old, inefficient, and just plain crap compared to what's happening now.

[The Auctioneer]

Thanks Sparky

I've checked this out and I really feel I need more....

Thanks again!


You can try Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0 software for 30 days free ,if you like it you can buy it for $99 U.S.
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiereel/?sdid=YOAC

[Bogie]

You mention quality and bandwidth .... why not use the free Google Video hosting? Not YouTube, but Google.

You can use high quality video, private posted so that it does not come up in the Google Video search results, and simply use their embedding code to add to your website.

No bandwidth issues on your side and high quality video delivered.

I have used Pinnacle to extract tracks from DVDs (legally), saved as high quality mpeg files, and uploaded to Google. Most are over 100mb.

You can do whatever editing beforehand for effects, clipping, etc., but very high quality.

[Tim]

yup flash8pro video is bundled.

it does a decent job, although imo the standalone sorenson for flash with the on2 v6 codec is better.

[The Auctioneer]

Hi Bogie

Each video in this series is approx 90 minutes from start to finish. These videos are probably too large for this....but I really don't know. I'm thinking my best bet is doing something in Flash, but because I'm only in the investigating stage--I'm open to all suggestions. So far everything I've read in response to my initial inquiry, has been helpful. I've been given a budget to get this done, but because the editing can only be done by me, I want to be responsible for this stage and will probably hand over the encoded video (whatever the format) to someone more familar to the process of building a player and skin. Right now I'm leaning towards 'Flash Video' but again--open to suggestions!




You mention quality and bandwidth .... why not use the free Google Video hosting? Not YouTube, but Google.

You can use high quality video, private posted so that it does not come up in the Google Video search results, and simply use their embedding code to add to your website.

No bandwidth issues on your side and high quality video delivered.

I have used Pinnacle to extract tracks from DVDs (legally), saved as high quality mpeg files, and uploaded to Google. Most are over 100mb.

You can do whatever editing beforehand for effects, clipping, etc., but very high quality.

[Tim]

flash8 video hands down.

[The Auctioneer]

Hi Tim

I've been reading Tom Green and others on CMX regarding this entire process and things are becoming much more clear. Regarding the 3rd party encoders/sorenson/on6 v6. Is there a site or service where one can upload video to have this done--something like the Adobe PDF service for those who don't have the software?


yup flash8pro video is bundled.

it does a decent job, although imo the standalone sorenson for flash with the on2 v6 codec is better.

[Tim]

not that I know of, you have to have the full software.

I've used flash8 to do it it works fine.

[The Auctioneer]

Thanks Tim--sometimes I get ahead of myself. The encoder which ships with Flash 8 will likely do just fine. I think I'll get the 3rd party stuff out of my mind and move forward with what I have.


not that I know of, you have to have the full software.

I've used flash8 to do it it works fine.

[Bogie]

Hi Bogie

Each video in this series is approx 90 minutes from start to finish. These videos are probably too large for this....but I really don't know. I'm thinking my best bet is doing something in Flash, but because I'm only in the investigating stage--I'm open to all suggestions. So far everything I've read in response to my initial inquiry, has been helpful. I've been given a budget to get this done, but because the editing can only be done by me, I want to be responsible for this stage and will probably hand over the encoded video (whatever the format) to someone more familiar to the process of building a player and skin. Right now I'm leaning towards 'Flash Video' but again--open to suggestions!I've seen videos on Google that are at least that - full movies. They don't seem to have any restrictions, except the usual "illegal, etc." stuff. Boy, 90 minutes could sure eat up a lot of bandwidth! For uploading anything over 100mb they provide a free upload utility to download and install.

Nice to have you own in-house control and hosting, but depends on your server account, bandwidth allowance, overall cost, etc.

Worth taking a look at. You just upload the video, they approve usually within 24 hrs, you make it private through the control panel, get the embed code, and "Bob's your Uncle!". Click here (http://ken.mydigitalimages.ca/) for one of a series of sites I just made for a client. Uses Google Private link video hosting (click on any one of the video images). Clipped these from a supplied DVD and converted to high quality MPEGs.

[The Auctioneer]

Well this adventure just keeps getting more interesting as I move along. For the time being I've decided I will just convert this raw DV into a DVD. I was using Pinnacle Studio 8 last night and managed to capture all in MPEG format but with my system crashing and errors I tossed it out the window and moved to the trial version of Adobe Elements. AE is slick and I don't have any issues with my system (stable) but the bloody software only capures in .avi and will only capture 20 minutes of video--it looks like I'm tossing this as well. Now someone has told me I need to reformat my NEW external HD from Fat32 to NFTS. I'm running winxp sp2/1g ram. I didn't realize this would be so difficult. Is my hardware not sufficient? Have all of you reformatted your drives to NTFS?

[Tim]

NTFS if you want bigger file sizes yes.

avi is better on PC it's a better quality (unless you're compressing hard with divx or something.)

[The Auctioneer]

Hi Tim

I managed to reformat my HD and everything turned out fine. Thanks...


NTFS if you want bigger file sizes yes.

avi is better on PC it's a better quality (unless you're compressing hard with divx or something.)

[ssadams]

I use Avid DV and it can convert files to Quicktime movies that look pretty good.

[Frosty]

I've always used Vegas. I think you'll be able to find it for fairly cheap on eBay

[rob]

If this is for something professional, don't mess around. This is what a lot of pros use:

http://www.sorensonmedia.com/

Pricy, yes. Excellent, definatly.