Vista Ultimate Shall have less support then you think.

[smirnoff]

So you bought the best top of the line most costly version of vista.

Like most you figured its going to have the most and be the best supported, sadly its not even close.

Vista Ultimate shall only have 5 years of support from its rtm date (not the 6 months to a year later after you bought it).

The less expensive Vista Business and Enterprise versions get 10 years of support and at first glance you think hey business don't want to upgrade os as much.
This true but not the top reason for why Vista Ultimate only has 5 years of support.

Heck even media center vista gets 10 years.

The reasons is that they figure people who bought Vista Ultimate are power users and want the latest and best and when windows 7 comes out they are going to blow even more cash and this 5 year limit is going to force them to do so even if they think twice.

Basically you pay more get less support and in 5 years time your going to be forced to upgrade again.

Now on to Vista Ultimate Extras one of those things you paid extra for.

Don't hold your breath on that one either since it seems a working version of dreamscape, a patched bitlocker that now works as it was suppose to, a poker game and of course language packs are considered extras.

One came with vista but didn't work the other worked but not as its was promised, the third is a game you could get for free on any download site and the last is actually considered a extra, come on language was something you could download for free on other windows versions.

Basically you paid more got less and in 5 years time are forced to buy again because they wont support it.

Now in five years like most you may want to update a os since thats a long time but i don't like the idea of being forced too in any form.

Its vista something but not Ultimate .

[DreamLord34]

And your source is??
You have a tendency to post stuff like this without a source.
Why is that?

Anyways, MS stated they were going to release a new os every 3 years.

Found this (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9011984) but not from MS.

[smirnoff]

http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?RDPATH=dm;en-us;lifecycle&p1=11712

[Exmortis]

Smirnoff, stop the FUD. And post the real URL.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/search/?sort=PN&alpha=WINDOWS+vista

Notice the "extended support" notice for enterprise user. Do you know what that extended support retired entails? Explain that one to me in details, please. Vista Ultimate NO SERVICE PACK has the same support time frame as other non-business versions. Vista with SP1 will have a different end support date. Quote me on this.


Heck even media center vista gets 10 years.Wrong.

[smirnoff]

Your too much.

Of course everyone else must have got confused when it was reported and your correct.

Never mind that the news is all over or that ms announced continued support for the other versions of vista and ms as stated 10 year support for xp media center.

(my bad that was suppose to be xp media center not vista)

http://windowssecrets.com/2008/02/28/02-Ultimate-gets-less-support-than-XP-Media-Center

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/how_ultimate_is_this.html

http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2007/03/01/7287

http://www.ditii.com/2007/03/01/microsoft-just-five-years-support-for-vista-home-ultimate/

Of course i fully expect you to argue the point even after ms itself stated in on feb 28 itself.

Hopefully like xp it gets extended since the door got left ajar just enough for ms to back peddle.

[Exmortis]

Of course i fully expect you to argue the point even after ms itself stated in on feb 28 itself.

And what did they state exactly? Got a real link other than blogs? I got one for you. It's the official lifecycle policy: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx


Hopefully like xp it gets extended since the door got left ajar just enough for ms to back peddle.And that's new? You're making the assumption that all dates stated are solid in stone while it has NOT been the case historically. Heck, XP is getting SP3 soon and was supposed to die long ago when it was first introduced in 2001. Do you really think that the "end of support" date announced in 2001 stuck? c'mon... As I said, stop the FUD. You almost make it sound like the OS will suddenly stop working on that magical date.

And look at the official link:

;lifesupsps#Windows]Click here (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln)

NOTE: It's a shame. The real URL isn't compatible with this forum. So cut 'n paste the following:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];lifesupsps#Windows

See where support ends for service packs depending on the product. And no, Media Center is not getting preferential treatment. And yes, it's all about the Service Pack.

Stop spreading FUD. This is nothing new.

[smirnoff]

Like i said your too much.

Its stated in black and white what ms has announced but you argue the point.

I didn't say they wouldn't extended it and you seem to be the only person assuming that everyone else would read my post and magical figure windows would stop.

I just stated what ms is doing and let people make up there own minds not try to make it for them.

Of course you would assume that me and everyone posting it all had the say dream at the same time.

I just state what ms is announced i don't try and tell people how they should make up there mind on it and i would suggest you try that too.


I don't have this need to drag people over to my view be it ms or apple tv.

So let people make up there own mind and stop this bs.

[Exmortis]

I just stated what ms is doing

Which is squarely contradicted with the official links I provided. As I said, FUD.

And when I asked you to describe in details what "extended support retired" is, you avoided it. Are you a member of MSDN? Are you?

[Mindcore]

All those blog/articles are a year old with the exception of the first. Where were these "doomsday prophets" on June 1, 2004 when Microsoft implemented the lifecycle policy on all consumer software, hardware, and multimedia versus business and development software?

Policies are not set in stone. Since when did Microsoft ever meet a target date in the first place?

For Win98 and most of their old operating systems the original lifecycle was 4 years and they got extended to 8 years. You can look up all the lifecycles for every MS product (past and present) here: http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectindex (http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselectindex)

What they are offering now, based on the new 2004 policy, is better than what they have in the past.

Totally agree with you on this, Exmortis... FUD!

All those articles only say what their authors want you to believe instead of offering all the facts. There are two sides to every story and all your links provide the opposition to MS.

Look at lifecycles for some other major software developers and see how "terrible" MS's is.