GTA 4 Cracked

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

The game has not even been officially released yet and bam...already available on some torrent sites. This is getting to be much in my opinion. No wonder ( as Law) pointed out that PC is in the decline due to this stuff. As far as I am concerned PC is the best gaming platform ever and some greedy people are just destroying or hurting the PC gaming industry. Makes me mad, not to preach but I buy 95% of my games....

http://www.tomshardware.com/gta-rockstar-game,video-259.html

[networkguy]

If you only buy 95% of your games then your a hypocrite, its like the pot calling the kettle black. Even if you only download 5% of the games you could buy, your no better then those who download every game.

NG

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

I do download games 5% of the time network guy....The ones that are now free...You assumed that me downloading 5% of games were copywrited and no, they are games like American Army ect which are downloadable and legal and free as opposed to me actually paying for them.

[Deathhawk78]

Just to bring you up to date, poeple have been doing this also for movies, programs, and any other thing that can be copied. No surprise.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

True Death, but it doesn't make it right.

[Deathhawk78]

True Death, but it doesn't make it right.


I know. Half the poeple in the world dont do things right. Thats why there are poeple who are law breakers. If not it would be a perfect world.

[lbjgh]

Hmm, even with people cracking games, the gaming industry is larger than Hollywood now.

[networkguy]

I do download games 5% of the time network guy....The ones that are now free...You assumed that me downloading 5% of games were copywrited and no, they are games like American Army ect which are downloadable and legal and free as opposed to me actually paying for them.

I didn't assume anything, you inferred the 5% were copyrighted games since the other 95% you were talking about were also copyrighted, in any case, your post wasn't clear enough for anyone to know either way, so you should have been more explicit in what you were referring to.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

Network guy, perhaps I should have clairfied that , however I did not think somone would be brazen enough to assume that is what i meant. For future reference, I will be more clear in what I say so that I don't have people like you calling me harsh things. It was a matter of perception, you thought that I inferred somethign when in actuaity, I simply stated that I don't pay for 5 % of my games..

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

Also, the justifications that people use to justify stealing amazes me . Well the gaming industry is bigger then Hollywood. I hope I am not assuming that you meant that it is okay to steal period.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

If one wanted to be even more technical, I could also say that included in that 5% that I ...key word I are gifts.

[Aristera]

No wonder ( as Law) pointed out that PC is in the decline due to this stuff. As far as I am concerned PC is the best gaming platform ever and some greedy people are just destroying or hurting the PC gaming industry.


PC what? GTA IV is only available for the PS3 and XBOX. There is no PC version available. If anything the leak will help sales for the XBOX with all the coverage the leak is getting and I bet that most of the people that download the game won't even be able to play it as they don't realize that they can't play it on PC or that they need a mod chip to play it on the console.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

Umm, I was def under the impressiont hat the hacked version was for the PC side. I will have to double check that because I am convinced that it was. I also realize that the consoles are getting modded to hack games too. It's just too bad that so many people for whatever platform feel the need to take take take. I wonder if gaming will in the future become less mainstreamed because of this. Like gaming was in the 80's and early 90's more underground however you defien that.

[networkguy]

Network guy, perhaps I should have clairfied that , however I did not think somone would be brazen enough to assume that is what i meant. For future reference, I will be more clear in what I say so that I don't have people like you calling me harsh things. It was a matter of perception, you thought that I inferred somethign when in actuaity, I simply stated that I don't pay for 5 % of my games..

Your the one who made the statement, not me, I simply followed what you said, but I think you nailed it when you say 'I did not think....' I wasn't being brazen, and I'm not coming down on you or being harsh, you simply made a statement which you have agreed, did not clearly explain what you meant to say. You must understand that if you want 'people like me' to get your point and not perceive that you are saying something different then what you are saying, that you must be clear about what and how you say what you are trying to say; its not an easy thing to do, but its far easier for someone to misinterpret you.

[DazedNConfuzed]

"hacked" version was for 360.

fact.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

Network guy, fair enough, you made your point a couple of times now on how I could be more clear in the future, why you insist on going on about it is beyond my understanding. However, why don't you post your thoughts on this issues as opposed to focusing too much on how I wasn't clear.

Dazed...not surprized it was cracked for the 360 ...seems thats whats happening these days to all platforms. I am not sure what the soultion will be, other then to drop the prices, or makes them paid subcritipons like wow, which would involve more games being online play rather then single player.

[Deb]

To get this thread back on track, I'll say this:

I purchase all of my pc games. Trouble is, There hasn't been anything in the past year to hit the market that's to my liking. With the release of all the new consoles over the past year, emphasis on those games is much higher than for pc games. Console games is where the money is...

[Aristera]

I disagree with some things here but I'll post why later, need to do some work.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

Yes it seems thats where the money is now with the consoles, I just find that unfortunate. And yes a good point too, there seems to be more shooter oriented games here that do not appeal to many people. Myself included sometimes, sometimes I just like to relax, chill with drink ect and play something like Dungeon siege or a good mystery game. Shooters are fun sometimes but you have to be in the mood for them. Hopefully, there will be a resurgence of not just PC games but more games not so focused on one type.

[smirnoff]

Console games have there own share of problems.

The piracy for them is a growing market and one thats growing so fast its going to easily pass the pc one in a year or two maybe less.

[glitch]

Why is this in PC gaming?

[compygeek]

Why is this in PC gaming?

it was probably thought that the cracked GTA IV was for PC, when in reality it's a console only game.

As deathhawk quoted, this isn't the first time that a game was cracked prior to it's release date. Heck, there were mods up for sale for the PS3 and XBOX 360 even before their launch date. It's sad news but it's a fact that if there's a way to crack a game, crack copy protection, or mod a system, you know someone, somewhere is doing it just because they can.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

That is the unfortunate reality that people are not even cracking these games because they can not afford them or even want them but because they simply can. arrogance at it's best ay?

[Law]

Hmm, even with people cracking games, the gaming industry is larger than Hollywood now.

Due to console games.

Hey Phenom, what are the specs for GTA 4 on PC. Not minimum but reccommened? I am unsure if i should get it for the PC or the 360 , i dont think my PC can run it though.

My bad i thought it was comming to PC as well. It probably will though since all the previous games have.

[Aristera]

Done work so now I'm back.

Now first off, I think this decline of PC gaming is skewed by a changing market. Many MMO games with monthly fees are more popular but are not being recorded as sales. Everquest, WOW, EVE, they may recored the purchase when I buy the box at the store but every month when people pay the $15-$20 to keep playing, it's not a new sale. I know when I was playing EVE, I sure wasn't inclined to buy any other games since I was paying for EVE already, but I was still spending money for a PC game.

Now as for the people that crack these games, I think it's more of a political message for the public to realize how useless copy protection is. Companies spend millions and millions of dollars creating different copy protection schemes that make their products less and less compatible and harder to use and it gets cracked in weeks, days or even before a product is released. Financially, wouldn't it be better to not spend those millions and release a cheaper product that will probably sell more units due to a lower price?

Also what if some company tried to use these weak security measures to protect something important like an election? Thats going on now in the states with Diebold that are trying to force the use of their electronic voting machines that have been shown that they can be hacked in minuets and from pictures off their own website. Hackers are making sure that we are not relying on a false sense of security.

[PhenomWithCrossfire]

Law, I am not too sure. It probably is pretty moderate reccommended requirments as the graphics engine in this game look very impressive ect. What are your PC specs Law? Arista, some good points mentioned above there. I just hope that PC gaming in particular gets stronger, because it is a great platform to play on if your system can handle it. Thats part of the problem though, PC gamers have to constantly be upgrading thier stuff. Mbaye that is why some people feel justified in stealing games because they constatnyl have to fork out money for hardware upgrades...