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winemaster
11-21-2008, 07:09 AM
New Star Trek Will Be Younger, Faster, Louder

By John Scott Lewinski November 19, 2008 | 12:15:00 AM Categories: Movies, Sci-Fi, Star Trek, Television

LOS ANGELES, California -- Director J.J. Abrams continued the worldwide roll-out of his new Star Trek prequel Wednesday, showing four extended preview clips to a capacity crowd of stars, executives, press, crew, studio employees and their various entourages at the Paramount Pictures studio theater.

After showing the same clips to similar gatherings in Europe and New York, Abrams faced a mixed reaction from the media and those Trekkers lucky enough to crash the viewing parties. But Wednesday's presentation attracted a friendlier group, as Trek was returning to its home dry dock for an event that had the back lot buzzing.

Beyond the congratulatory handshakes, hugs and air kisses thrown Abrams' way, the real focus of attention was the footage immaculately projected in unforgiving digital clarity for curious eyes to behold. Paramount is staking its oldest and most successful TV and movie franchise on Abrams' film, and it's not too big a reach to suggest that Star Trek is dead as a major pop-culture player if this flick tanks when it premieres in May 2009.

The verdict? While four five-minute clips do not a movie make, it's safe to say that Abrams' Trek will be younger, brighter, busier and more frenetically paced than any previous incarnation. The performances are edgier and louder, but not better. The effects are spectacular and executed on a scale never attempted by any Trek film. And, while connected to Gene Roddenberry's creation, this film is deliberately and unquestionably built in its own universe -- constructing its story on the idea that the original Star Trek time line has been destroyed and must be reconstructed as closely as possible.

(Spoiler alert: Plot information follows.)

What can be safely presumed after watching the preview footage? Romulan villain Nero (played by Eric Bana) has deliberately changed the past -- perhaps in an effort to purge history of that bane of all nasty aliens, James T. Kirk (Chris Pine). As a result, Kirk grows up without a dad and develops into a first-class space goof. Still, he finds his way to Starfleet Academy on the encouragement of the fatherly Captain Christopher Pike (Bruce Greenwood).

Kirk remains a stellar idiot, despite obvious aptitude, and runs afoul of Spock (Zachary Quinto) and everybody else except Leonard "Bones" McCoy (Karl Urban), who sneaks Kirk aboard the Enterprise on its maiden voyage.

If Nero is to be stopped and the Federation, the Planet Vulcan and Kirk's future are to be saved, the Romulans must be foiled and Kirk must find a way to get his butt into the center seat of the Enterprise's frozen-yogurt-shop-style bridge. Fortunately, the older, wiser Spock Classic (Leonard Nimoy) is on hand to aid Kirk and to act as our ambassador to the new time line -- as though telling us to relax and accept that change is inevitable.

As for the look of the new set design, the Enterprise exterior is close enough to the original. But the interior seems overpopulated, disorganized and hyperkinetic. The engineering department looks like the guts of a World War II battleship after being colorized by Ikea. The bridge looks like an old Mac iBook, spreading that milky white "Barbie's Malibu Dreamhouse" feel everywhere. We'll have to see if anyone explains how the altered time line led Starfleet's military designers to look to 21st-century West Hollywood boutiques for their interior decor concepts.

In the end, is it Star Trek?

That depends on how you answer one question: Was Star Trek entertaining because of the exploits and interactions of characters of Kirk, Spock, McCoy and company, or did you enjoy those characters because of the veteran actors playing them?

If it's the latter, Abrams' kids can't pull off that sort of effortless chemistry and gravitas. They're too busy running around and yelling. If it's the former, Kirk is still a man of action, Spock is still brilliant and McCoy and Scotty are still effective comic relief.

Abrams' vision is as much Star Trek as your eye will let it be.

Star Trek is set for release May 8, 2009.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008...-previews.html

Limey32
11-21-2008, 07:52 AM
Well.. pretty much sums it up for me. Rubbish. R.I.P Trek. (1966-2005)

Mr. Apollo
11-21-2008, 09:31 AM
In the end, is it Star Trek?

That depends on how you answer one question: Was Star Trek entertaining because of the exploits and interactions of characters of Kirk, Spock, McCoy and company, or did you enjoy those characters because of the veteran actors playing them?

If it's the latter, Abrams' kids can't pull off that sort of effortless chemistry and gravitas. They're too busy running around and yelling. If it's the former, Kirk is still a man of action, Spock is still brilliant and McCoy and Scotty are still effective comic relief.LOL that's pretty much the opposite of everything else I've read. The problem with Trek is that poeople have taken it too seriously and unless it follows canon exactly then it is deemed heretical. Trek is about the people and issues they face. The futurisitc setting is just a plot device and expresses the wish that people can eventually overcome their differences and work together to better the world as whole.

This franchaise has been run into the ground so badly that this is exactly what it needs; a complete reboot. Look how well it worked with Batman. Even James Bond had a bit of a refresh with the new movies.

Law
11-21-2008, 10:24 AM
Sounds like this is exactly what star trek needs. Seriously, how many of the other movies were any good? probably 1 ?

Star trek died a long time ago. Its justthat trek geeks refused to admit it.

Mr. Apollo
11-21-2008, 10:56 AM
Sounds like this is exactly what star trek needs. Seriously, how many of the other movies were any good? probably 1 ?

Star trek died a long time ago. Its justthat trek geeks refused to admit it.
1 was OK, 2, 4, 6, and 7 were good too. That's only half of the movies and 1 is debatable. Nevermind Voyager and Enterprise.

Limey32
11-21-2008, 04:36 PM
I just like my Trek the way it is lol. Can't help it. Make a new franchise without any Trek connection set in space, and I might be all over it.. but don't mess with my Kirk lmao. Besides, I liked all the movies, and Voyager too. I admit I wasn't keen on Enterprise when it was on air, but I watched it afterwards and got quite into it.

BSG on the other hand.. no interest at all.. and I have tried to like it. :(

I wonder what people would be saying if this was tried with Star Wars? Not like the last 4 movies of that franchise were any good either. Not every bloomin thing needs a reboot..

Mouse
11-21-2008, 05:59 PM
Kevin Pollak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcIm9EmgJ20) IS Captain James Tiberius Kirk.

Accept no substitutes.

Mr. Apollo
11-22-2008, 02:02 PM
I wonder what people would be saying if this was tried with Star Wars? Not like the last 4 movies of that franchise were any good either. Not every bloomin thing needs a reboot..A lot of Star Wars people would love for Lucas to give the reigns over to someone new and let them play with the franchaise. However, at the same time there are a lot of dogmatic fans who believe there is only one way to display the franchaise.

Iceman-007
11-24-2008, 09:41 AM
1 was OK, 2, 4, 6, and 7 were good too. That's only half of the movies and 1 is debatable. Nevermind Voyager and Enterprise.

A lot of Star Wars people would love for Lucas to give the reigns over to someone new and let them play with the franchaise. However, at the same time there are a lot of dogmatic fans who believe there is only one way to display the franchaise.

Enterprise was an amazing an idea Star Trek in 22nd century. Season 1 and 2 were not that good. However Season 3 and 4 were good. However Linda park (Hoshi) said they cancelled it because they wanted to go the way of reality TV show's


1 I did not think was good, 8 was good 9 was garbage and the last one 10 could have been better the FX on the photon torpedoes were garbage. They looked a lot better in previous movies.

I would love for Lucas to give the reigns ove to someone eles. George Lucas doesn't make an effort anymore. Regarding the prequels he said he is not out to top the 1st 3, he just wants to get them done. The content and the way he said it implies he was not going to make much effort and he only cared about getting them done and it showed. In Episode III (spoiler alert) the jedi got killed so easily, and that cool women blue alien jedi just stood then as the clones killed her. George Lucas isn't going to make Episodes 7 -8-9 because he said it would be like 18 years before he finished them all. Well he should get some eles to finish them then. I am glad he won't be writing for the new Live action TV show just over seeing it.