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Athlon_9800
09-26-2005, 10:17 PM
What in the hell?


If you want to see the true face of war, go to the amateur porn Web site NowThats****edUp.com (http://nowthats****edup.com/). For almost a year, American soldiers stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan have been taking photographs of dead bodies, many of them horribly mutilated or blown to pieces, and sending them to Web site administrator Chris Wilson. In return for letting him post these images, Wilson gives the soldiers free access to his site. American soldiers have been using the pictures of disfigured Iraqi corpses as currency to buy pornography. At Wilson's Web site, you can see an Arab man's face sliced off and placed in a bowl filled with blood. Another man's head, his face crusted with dried blood and powder burns, lies on a bed of gravel. A man in a leather coat who apparently tried to run a military checkpoint lies slumped in the driver's seat of a car, his head obliterated by gunfire, the flaps of skin from his neck blooming open like rose petals. Six men in beige fatigues, identified as US Marines, laugh and smile for the camera while pointing at a burned, charcoal-black corpse lying at their feet.

The captions that accompany these images, which were apparently written by the soldiers who posted them, laugh and gloat over the bodies. The soldier who posted a picture of a corpse lying in a pool of his own brains and entrails wrote, "What every Iraqi should look like." The photograph of a corpse whose jaw has apparently rotted away, leaving a gaping set of upper teeth, bears the caption "bad day for this dude." One soldier posted three photographs of corpses lying in the street and titled his collection "DIE HAJI DIE." The soldiers take pride, even joy, in displaying the dead.

This could become a public-relations catastrophe. The Bush administration claims such sympathy for American war dead that officials have banned the media from photographing flag-draped coffins being carried off cargo planes. Government officials and American media officials have repeatedly denounced the al-Jazeera network for airing grisly footage of Iraqi war casualties and American prisoners of war. The legal fight over whether to release the remaining photographs of atrocities at Abu Ghraib has dragged on for months, with no less a figure than Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Meyers arguing that the release of such images will inflame the Muslim world and drive untold numbers to join al-Qaeda. But none of these can compare to the prospect of American troops casually bartering pictures of suffering and death for porn.

"Two years ago, if somebody had said our soldiers would do these things to detainees and take pictures of it, I would have said that's a lie," sighed recently retired General Michael Marchand, who as assistant judge advocate general for the Army was responsible for reforming military training policy to make sure nothing like Abu Ghraib ever happens again. "What soldiers do, I'm not sure I can guess anymore."

But for Chris Wilson, it's all in a day's work. "It's an unedited look at the war from their point of view," he says of the soldiers who contribute the images. "There's always going to be a slant from the news media. ... And this is a photo that comes straight from their camera to the site. To me, it's just a more real look at what's going on."

Wilson, a 27-year-old Web entrepreneur living in Florida, created the Web site a year ago, asked fans to contribute pictures of their wives and girlfriends, and posted footage and photographs bearing titles such as "wife working ****" and "ass ****ing my wife on the stairs." The site was a big hit with soldiers stationed overseas; about a third of his customers, or more than fifty thousand people, work in the military. Wilson says soldiers began e-mailing him, thanking him for keeping up their morale and "bringing a little piece of the States to them." But other soldiers complained that they had problems buying memberships to his service. "They wanted to join the site, the amateur wife and girlfriend site," he says. "But they couldn't, because the addresses associated with their credit cards were Quackistan or something; they were in such a high-risk country that the credit card companies wouldn't approve the purchase."

That was when Wilson hit upon the idea of offering free memberships to soldiers. All they had to do was send a picture of life in Iraq or Afghanistan, and they'd get all the free porn they wanted. All sorts of images began appearing over the transom, but he dedicated a special site to view the most "gory" pictures. Asked what he feels upon viewing a new batch, Wilson says: "Personally, I don't look at it one way or another. It's newsworthy, and people can form their own opinions."

One soldier, who would not reveal his name or unit, defended his decision to post pictures of the dead, which he did after returning home. "I had just finished watching the beheading of one of our contractors that was taken hostage over in Iraq," he wrote in an e-mail. "I figured since that was all over the Web, maybe these pictures would make some potential suicide bomber think twice after seeing what happens AFTER you pull the pin.

"What you interpret [as] maliciousness and bravado may be how [soldiers] react to situations where they almost die or they just saw their buddy get killed," he continued. "I will not defend the people who have posted pictures of dead, innocent Iraqis, but in my opinion, the insurgents/terrorists that try to kill us and end up getting killed in return have absolutely no rights once they are dead.

"Obviously these postings do not help our public image at all," the soldier concluded. "However, I believe the US has been far too concerned about our public image as of late. ... We need to take a much harsher stand against these Islamic fundamentalists and stop giving them the royal American treatment. They need to be taught a lesson, a lesson hard enough that they will think twice before waging a jihad against us."

Wilson's Web site has made the news before – but not for posting pictures of murdered people. Last October, the New York Post reported that the Pentagon was investigating him for posting naked pictures of female soldiers in Iraq. After a few months, the Post reported that the Pentagon had blocked soldiers in Iraq from accessing the Web site, which had posted five more pictures of nude female soldiers, some of whom had posed with machine guns and grenades. After the Post's stories, Wilson says, he was bombarded with requests for interviews from newspapers and radio stations. Even after he began posting photographs of corpses late last year, media inquiries focused exclusively on his nudie pics. It wasn't until reporters from the European press contacted him last week that anyone took notice of Wilson's snuff-for-porn arrangement with American troops.

"The soldiers thing, I think the Italians picked it up first," Wilson says. "I've done interviews with the Italians, the French, Amsterdam. ... They were very critical, saying the US wouldn't pick it up, because it's such a sore spot. ... It raises too many ethical questions. ... I started to laugh, because it's true."

When contacted for this story, a White House spokeswoman said, "If we have a comment, we'll call you back." They never did. But according to Army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Chris Conway, Pentagon policy may be ambivalent when it comes to soldiers posting pictures of mutilated war victims. "There are policies in place that, on the one hand, safeguard sensitive and classified information, and on the other hand protect the First Amendment rights of service members," he says, adding that field commanders may issue additional directives. "In plain English, if you're on the job working for the Department of Defense, you shouldn't be freelancing. You should be doing your duty."

If American soldiers in the field are always considered representatives of their government, international law clearly prohibits publishing and ridiculing images of war dead. The First Protocol of the Geneva Conventions states that "the remains of persons who have died for reasons related to occupation or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities ... shall be respected, and the gravesites of all such persons shall be respected, maintained, and marked." The first Geneva Convention also requires that military personnel "shall further ensure that the dead are honorably interred, if possible according to the rites of the religion to which they belonged."

No one can reasonably expect a war without war crimes. But thanks to modern communications technology, photographic evidence of its brutality will always be with us. Roughly two hundred soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan document their experiences in online "milblogs," and digital cameras are ubiquitous. No one can stop soldiers from posting pictures of eviscerated corpses for all to see, and no one should ever again be able to feign ignorance of war's human cost. Or so you'd think. Yet in the days since the European press uncovered the gore-for-porn story, not a single US print newspaper other than the Express has touched it.

Representatives from Amnesty International and Human Rights First even refused to comment, although both organizations ostensibly exist to condemn just this kind of practice. Perhaps no one wants to give Chris Wilson more publicity, or daily editors are too sensitive about being viewed as unpatriotic. Or perhaps the story is just too ugly to contemplate.

Americans have thousands of media outlets to choose from. But they still have to visit a porn site to see what this war has done to the bodies of the dead and the souls of the living. One of the pictures on Wilson's site depicts a woman whose right leg has been torn off by a land mine, and a medical worker is holding the mangled stump up to the camera. The woman's vagina is visible under the hem of her skirt. The caption for this picture reads: "Nice puss -– bad foot."

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2005-09-21/news/news.html

Law
09-26-2005, 10:39 PM
Those pictures are gross but thats war. Those soldiers are posting them for the wrong reasons but that is the ugly truth of war.

Athlon_9800
09-26-2005, 10:44 PM
Those pictures are gross but thats war. Those soldiers are posting them for the wrong reasons but that is the ugly truth of war.

A war that... shouldn't be happening.

Law
09-26-2005, 10:54 PM
A war that... shouldn't be happening.

No, it shouldnt be happening but it did and is happening. I personally feel lots of those soldiers are off their rockers, but then again if your being fired at and could die any day then killing an enemy would be an exhillerating experience.

I also dont think taking pictures of the carnage is wrong but i do think the context in which it is published can be the difference between what is acceptable and what isnt.

from what i read in the article its definitely for the wrong reasons but as for the pictures, thats what happens.

Athlon_9800
09-26-2005, 10:56 PM
No, it shouldnt be happening but it did and is happening. I personally feel lots of those soldiers are off their rockers, but then again if your being fired at and could die any day then killing an enemy would be an exhillerating experience.

I also dont think taking pictures of the carnage is wrong but i do think the context in which it is published can be the difference between what is acceptable and what isnt.

from what i read in the article its definitely for the wrong reasons but as for the pictures, thats what happens.

They don't show the pictures in the news, but the soldiers trade them for porn. See, I can't justify that.

Yeah, pictures will be taken, but that's not really the issue.

Law
09-26-2005, 11:00 PM
Im not justifying it , as i said, they are being published wrongly. For the wrong reasons and so on.

Face it there are lots of messed up people out there. Look at all the people that go to such sites and others for entertainment. ENTERTAINMENT, now thats messed up. how fun would it be to get your head blown apart , have someone take a picture of it for the purpose of exploiting it and then having millions look at it and make stupid captions or jokes about you?

Now , some do look at those not for entertainment but for other purposes, study, information, or whatever. But many, just messed up people.

Athlon_9800
09-26-2005, 11:03 PM
Im not justifying it , as i said, they are being published wrongly. For the wrong reasons and so on.

Face it there are lots of messed up people out there. Look at all the people that go to such sites and others for entertainment. ENTERTAINMENT, now thats messed up. how fun would it be to get your head blown apart , have someone take a picture of it for the purpose of exploiting it and then having millions look at it and make stupid captions or jokes about you?

Now , some do look at those not for entertainment but for other purposes, study, information, or whatever. But many, just messed up people.

I'm beginning to realize just how messed up people really are... I need to listen to The Warmth by Incubus now.

Law
09-26-2005, 11:07 PM
I'm beginning to realize just how messed up people really are... I need to listen to The Warmth by Incubus now.


youre only 18 now, youll see alot more in the upcomming years. Dont let it get to you though.

Athlon_9800
09-26-2005, 11:11 PM
youre only 18 now, youll see alot more in the upcomming years. Dont let it get to you though.

Heh, oh I know. Life's crazy.

I LIKE EGGS
09-27-2005, 09:49 AM
Actually, lets get to the root of the problem. The war that is happening is for the wrong reasons. The death pictures for free porn is just a by-product.

Law
09-27-2005, 02:19 PM
Actually, lets get to the root of the problem. The war that is happening is for the wrong reasons. The death pictures for free porn is just a by-product.


Actually , we know the war is for all the wrong reasons , this issue is the exploitation of the dead and the immorality of the soldiers.

Just Doug1
09-27-2005, 03:12 PM
I take it that no one realizes that the same thing happened in Vietman when the American people, fomented as much by celebrity "human relations wizards and I-do-go-hurray-for-me" media icons as anything, came to hate the individuals who have to do this god-awful job.

You or I could quit if we hated our jobs, but those grunts have to do what they are told for as long as the tour requires or face "rocks at Leavenworth".

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

On both sides of this argument.

Law
09-27-2005, 05:45 PM
I take it that no one realizes that the same thing happened in Vietman .

Youre wrong there. I and im sure others realize it but were not talking about vietnam.

Mischief007
09-27-2005, 06:36 PM
I'm beginning to realize just how messed up people really are... I need to listen to The Warmth by Incubus now.

Sucks doesn't it.

And before Law says anything, it has gotten to me. I know it shouldn't but it did and I can't help it.

Law
09-27-2005, 06:42 PM
Sucks doesn't it.

And before Law says anything, it has gotten to me. I know it shouldn't but it did and I can't help it.

How has it gotten to you?

Athlon_9800
09-27-2005, 08:56 PM
How has it gotten to you?

Just take a look at what we see daily and that should explain it. We are exposed to so much human... garbage.

Mischief007
09-27-2005, 09:28 PM
^ Absolutely right.

Yogi
09-27-2005, 09:34 PM
Just take a look at what we see daily and that should explain it. We are exposed to so much human... garbage.
Welcome to the real world.

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but at the tender age of 18, "you ain't seen nothin' yet" (with apologies to BTO). :)

Quintin
09-27-2005, 11:17 PM
Well folks the US Military is looking into the site because the Muslim community has complained about the war photos being used for prono...

Athlon_9800
09-28-2005, 07:39 AM
Welcome to the real world.

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but at the tender age of 18, "you ain't seen nothin' yet" (with apologies to BTO). :)

I never meant that I'd experienced or seen as much as others, I'm just saying, hehe. I'm smart enough to realize the state of things, in a way.

I LIKE EGGS
09-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Actually , we know the war is for all the wrong reasons , this issue is the exploitation of the dead and the immorality of the soldiers.

Well, you spend a couple of years over there and tell me how moral you, or most, will act.

Athlon_9800
09-28-2005, 02:12 PM
Well, you spend a couple of years over there and tell me how moral you, or most, will act.

I know that was directed at Law, but I bet he feels the same: I wouldn't spend time there because I know the war's purpose is unjust. What are they over there dying for?

Oh, I don't think we should excuse people for exploiting dead corpses...

Law
09-28-2005, 04:48 PM
Just take a look at what we see daily and that should explain it. We are exposed to so much human... garbage.

Ok Athlon , but that question was specific to Mischeif. I want to know how it got to him/her. Not saying it didnt or anything, im curious as to what has changed for him/her and why, thats all.

Law
09-28-2005, 04:50 PM
Welcome to the real world.

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but at the tender age of 18, "you ain't seen nothin' yet" (with apologies to BTO). :)


The last thing anyone should be doing is saying " Youre only 18 you hav'nt seen anything yet"

You never know what a young person has gone through. Some have seen and experienced far worse things that lots of older people.

I LIKE EGGS
09-28-2005, 04:51 PM
The last thing anyone should be doing is saying " Youre only 18 you hav'nt seen anything yet"

You never know what a young person has gone through. Some have seen and experienced far worse things that lots of older people.

Hence the photo's submitted on that site.

Law
09-28-2005, 04:52 PM
Well, you spend a couple of years over there and tell me how moral you, or most, will act.

Oh, so because every soldier is exploiting the dead for some porn then i should too if i were a soldier?

Sure you would be very desensitized but you should still know right and wrong.

You cant let these people off the hook for this behaviour because they are in a dangerous and stressful situation.

I LIKE EGGS
09-28-2005, 04:56 PM
Oh, so because every soldier is exploiting the dead for some porn then i should too if i were a soldier?

Sure you would be very desensitized but you should still know right and wrong.

You cant let these people off the hook for this behaviour because they are in a dangerous and stressful situation.

I don't understand why this is such an issue. Worse things could be happening. War is costly in every manner of the word. That being said, BFD if they trade a lil misery for some happiness? They are over there doing all the deeds....regardless of how they feel about being there, they are, and they are doing their jobs. I say let them have cake. I don't know anyone that they are exploiting. AND so be it, it some coward wants to strap a bomb on his back and go and blow up innocent bystanders in some lil store.......and in the aftermath there are some photos taken.....hell yeah I'd like to see em too.

I am not trying to be cruel or sick. Just saying is all.

Mischief007
09-28-2005, 05:18 PM
Ok Athlon , but that question was specific to Mischeif. I want to know how it got to him/her. Not saying it didnt or anything, im curious as to what has changed for him/her and why, thats all.

I hate seeing people suffer, I'm opposed to war, I've been through my share of hard times. I hate the way we humans treat each other. Perfect example, western world & Europe versus the Middle East (some very disturbing images and I know it was a minority of soldiers that did this stuff), I hate how we can't get along with other races (was a victim of racism multiple times), I hate how resolutions have to be made by using weapons and lying politicians (there are good ones out there though).

Just generally hate what we humans have become in the last 100 years. I'm ashamed and sickened at the same time.

Law
09-28-2005, 05:18 PM
yeah worse things are happening , and there are other threads for those things.

Making fun of bloody corpses that used to be people is not what id call fun but if thats your thing then thats your thing.

As i said earlier and shouldnt have to repeat is that i think publishing pictures like that is fine but you have to do it proffessionally not in an exploitative manner.

Morals, some have em others dont know what the word means.

Law
09-28-2005, 05:29 PM
I hate seeing people suffer, I'm opposed to war, I've been through my share of hard times. I hate the way we humans treat each other. Perfect example, western world & Europe versus the Middle East (some very disturbing images and I know it was a minority of soldiers that did this stuff), I hate how we can't get along with other races (was a victim of racism multiple times), I hate how resolutions have to be made by using weapons and lying politicians (there are good ones out there though).

Just generally hate what we humans have become in the last 100 years. I'm ashamed and sickened at the same time.

Sure, you could see that way.

What about the fact that even though all that garbage goes on, you still find many many people who dont care what race you are they treat you as equals.

Athlon_9800
09-28-2005, 06:07 PM
I don't understand why this is such an issue. Worse things could be happening. War is costly in every manner of the word. That being said, BFD if they trade a lil misery for some happiness? They are over there doing all the deeds....regardless of how they feel about being there, they are, and they are doing their jobs. I say let them have cake. I don't know anyone that they are exploiting. AND so be it, it some coward wants to strap a bomb on his back and go and blow up innocent bystanders in some lil store.......and in the aftermath there are some photos taken.....hell yeah I'd like to see em too.

I am not trying to be cruel or sick. Just saying is all.

Wow, I extremely dissagree with you... How is this NOT an issue?

Tell me, would you like to be shot, burned, what have you, then photographed and posted on the internet for people to poke and prod and likely laugh? I mean, people are getting some sick entertainment from it...

You can't assume that "some coward" is all that's being photographed... what, you believe that all Iraqis are just crazy overly religious suicide bombers? How is that not trying to be cruel or sick? It's not only that, it's prejudice.

Rustynut
09-28-2005, 06:18 PM
All that crap just to feel superior to the victims of the war, I wonder if that was what God was thinking when he sent these last two Hurricanes to show the Yanks that they are atually Insignificant. :)

Mischief007
09-28-2005, 06:35 PM
Sure, you could see that way.

What about the fact that even though all that garbage goes on, you still find many many people who dont care what race you are they treat you as equals.

Yes I agree. You can find those people but right now they are in the minority. You find one but they are surrounded by the garbage. You usually have to dig through the garbage to get to the decent person.

But I agree. There are good people out there but they are becoming less and less these days.

Law
09-28-2005, 06:39 PM
Yes I agree. You can find those people but right now they are in the minority. You find one but they are surrounded by the garbage. You usually have to dig through the garbage to get to the decent person.
.

Doesnt it feel that much more significant when you actually do find a good person after all that garbage?

andyman
09-28-2005, 06:40 PM
The Army has opened an investigation into whether American troops have sent gruesome photographs of Iraqi war dead to an Internet site where the soldiers were given free access to online pornography, military officials say.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5884584.html?tag=zdnn.alert

Mischief007
09-28-2005, 11:48 PM
Doesnt it feel that much more significant when you actually do find a good person after all that garbage?

Yes but it's that garbage that makes it miserable. If you know what I mean.

Swordfish
09-29-2005, 07:46 AM
So. One bad apple dosn't spoil the dozen is what we are trying to tell 'ya I think you need to stop dwelling on the past otherwise you'll lead a pretty lonely life.

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 08:56 AM
Wow, I extremely dissagree with you... How is this NOT an issue?

Well then please tell me how this IS an issue. All you come back with is how is this NOT an issue. So please explain to me how it is. Not every photo on there was in poor taste. And so what if there was a select few....CNN shows the same style photo's for years.....for money....and I don't hear you having an issue with that. Yet the people that are actually doing the job, not making profit off of it, are the bad guys. SO yeah IMHO BIG FN DEAL IF THEY WANT TO TRADE WAR PICS FOR PORN. There are much larger fish to fry.

Tell me, would you like to be shot, burned, what have you, then photographed and posted on the internet for people to poke and prod and likely laugh? I mean, people are getting some sick entertainment from it...

First of all if I did something as shallow and cowardly as strapping a bomb to my back and run into a building then YES I hope that someone would make an example of me. Secondly, what pictures were you looking at? Most of the ones that I saw were NOT in a "poke and prod" manor. There may have been a few that there should not have been posing and smiling, however generally the pics that were posted were fine. A little disgusting to look at, but fine.

You can't assume that "some coward" is all that's being photographed... what, you believe that all Iraqis are just crazy overly religious suicide bombers? How is that not trying to be cruel or sick? It's not only that, it's prejudice.

For you to single handedly mark me as prejudice is a cowardly move. We ALL have prejudice in us in one way or another. So how dare you sit here and single me out and make me look like the badguy. Please tell me where I stated that I believe all Iraqis are just crazy overly religious suicide bombers? I will not tolerate someone putting words into my own mouth, when my foot fits just fine in there as it is.

Riddle me this though.....how many images did it take you to decide that this was not right, in your eyes. Then tell me how many more did you look at before you decided to stop? Come now, be honest. Curiosity is in us all.

P.S.

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 08:59 AM
All that crap just to feel superior to the victims of the war, I wonder if that was what God was thinking when he sent these last two Hurricanes to show the Yanks that they are atually Insignificant. :)

Great....yet another GOD comment.

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 09:14 AM
Yes but it's that garbage that makes it miserable. If you know what I mean.

No actually it's the individual that makes it miserable. You are in control of your own feelings. If you choose to look at things in a negative manner then chances are you will be full of hurt and anger....hence your tag line....

"Life sucks!! Humankind should be abolished!! Women are evil!!"

Now if you looked at things in a more positive manner, then most things would not bother you because you could care less about stressing yourself out over someone else's idiosyncrasies.

All I hear is whining about how the world sucks or the world is bad from a younger generation that chooses not do do a damn thing about it. Changes start with you guys....you are the next representatives to the teenagers. Why not grow up and act like it instead of sitting on your areses *****ing about what a better world we should/could live in.

Mischief007
09-29-2005, 01:03 PM
I'm actually in the process of doing something about it. I'm tired of the people who don't do anything. I will start getting involved but the job is taking all my waking moments right now.

jovin
09-29-2005, 01:59 PM
Great....yet another GOD comment.

I agree. It's a sign from God to Bush to cut it out and that He's getting very, very annoyed. (Well, Bush admitted he takes his marching orders directly from God.)

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 02:01 PM
I agree. It's a sign from God to Bush to cut it out and that He's getting very, very annoyed. (Well, Bush admitted he takes his marching orders directly from God.)

Great....yet another GOD comment.

Athlon_9800
09-29-2005, 02:20 PM
I LIKE EGGS, there's nothing really more for me to say on the topic. You seem a 'lil too "for" what the soldiers are doing and nothing will change that. All I know is that if a country invaded mine under false pretenses and merely for profit, I would stand and fight, too. And you know? It's not even just the fact of who the bodies are or whatever, but what kind of sick person wants to view those pictures? Also, just say it aloud: people are photographing dead bodies and trading them for access to other images of people having sex....

And you comment was prejudice, that's why I said it.

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 02:42 PM
there's nothing really more for me to say on the topic.

Yet you still have more to say......(read on fellow viewers)

You seem a 'lil too "for" what the soldiers are doing and nothing will change that.

But I do believe that there are worse things on this planet that we could exhaust our resources on then "free porn for army pics" issues. However, I am not for or against anything the troops are doing. If anything the fact that they decided to defend their country and their leader decided to go to war.....a war that they are forced to fight for something they DON'T believe in. Then yeah I tend to be a lil lenient towards these troops.....considering my country does not have the balls, the money or the arms to defend ANY cause right or wrong. No wait our peacekeepers are allowed French stop signs...with really sharp corners. But like I said before....CNN profits from a lot of the similar ones that the troops took...and I do not hear you complain about that....but oh well thats big business. When CNN isn't getting their hands dirty, does it make it more or less right that they air the same photos?

All I know is that if a country invaded mine under false pretenses and merely for profit, I would stand and fight, too.

So you would fight if a country invaded yours under false pretenses and merely for profit.....yet when a company....media (who should know better) exploits people on a daily basis with graphic photos.....FOR PROFIT....under false pretenses of "informing the public as they have a right to know" and you are ok with that.

but what kind of sick person wants to view those pictures?

Alas, you didn't answer the question..........."how many images did it take you to decide that this was not right, in your eyes. Then tell me how many more did you look at before you decided to stop? Come now, be honest. Curiosity is in us all." then we can talk about sick people. Of course you waived your right as a sane person when you viewed more than one picture.

And you comment was prejudice, that's why I said it.

Please explain to me oh wise one, how, without EVER expressing a certain race, religion or cree, did I EVER produce a prejudice comment?

Do NOT sit here and accuse me of something without backing it up with a, "CUZ I SAID SO" type comment, especially ATHLON, when it has to do with accusations such as me making prejudice comments.

Athlon_9800
09-29-2005, 03:03 PM
Do NOT sit here and accuse me of something without backing it up with a, "CUZ I SAID SO" type comment, especially ATHLON, when it has to do with accusations such as me making prejudice comments.

One thing, I only saw ONE photo and it was along with a story that I had read... so, no, I didn't gauk at the goddamn photos.

Calm the hell down man, this is a forum and I can do as I please. I don't need to prove anything to you, I owe you nothing. I don't want to carry on this conversation any longer. I hope you get really angry, too.

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 03:34 PM
One thing, I only saw ONE photo and it was along with a story that I had read... so, no, I didn't gauk at the goddamn photos.

Calm the hell down man, this is a forum and I can do as I please. I don't need to prove anything to you, I owe you nothing. I don't want to carry on this conversation any longer. I hope you get really angry, too.

You only saw one photo.....and that is what you are judging what they are doing? On one photo. For all you know that is the ONLY one of it's kind. Either you are a liar or a hypocrite. Kripes you get so defensive.

OMG I should have realized you are just a naive lil kid. Arguing with you is like being in a special olympics race, even if I win....you will still be WE TODD DID....to prove this here are your line(s)...First you tell me to calm down, then you hope I get really mad...MAKE UP YOUR FREAKIN MIND.

Lastly, it would be considered proper netiquette, that if you are going to accuse me of something that you actually back it up instead of doing what your generation usually does, and that is punking out! And I am not getting mad. However I do have the right to ask you to prove something especially when you accuse me of something. So go ahead, hide behind your keyboard.....looks good on you. All you have done is proven that you cannot hold your own.

Law
09-29-2005, 03:54 PM
wow, im glad that some people i will only meet online.

I LIKE EGGS
09-29-2005, 03:58 PM
wow, im glad that some people i will only meet online.

Shhh, or you're next ;):ndr:

Blueharp
09-29-2005, 06:08 PM
U.S. Army ends probe on porn site photos of Iraq corpses
28 Sep 2005 19:59:07 GMT
Source: Reuters


WASHINGTON, Sept 28 (Reuters) - The U.S. Army after a brief inquiry has failed to determine whether U.S. soldiers provided grisly photos of people killed in the Iraq war to a porn Web site in exchange for free access to it, officials said on Wednesday

More:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N28310515.htm

Law
09-29-2005, 09:27 PM
I think thats the third time this has been posted here now ^^^

Blueharp
09-29-2005, 09:44 PM
Is that right?
I don't see a similar reference made elsewhere in this thread..