what's a better type of phone wire ?

[smirnoff]

bell came 9 days early and replaced thw wire to the house and fixed my phone and internet problems (wierd they did something right)

now that this is done i am going to replace the inside wirining with something better then the uninsulated stuff.

anyone know whats used?

[Mouse]

The old stuff is a grey plastic coating of 4 very small coloured wires.

It's a wonder to me that it works at all.

The new stuff is a mystery to me, but it must seem like monster cable compare to what you had.

[smirnoff]

the line to the house was 60 plus years old.

[Mouse]

Mine is 35+ years, and I'm sure as hell it's why I can't get up to Bell Basic speed.

Of course Bell would never admit to that. They have no desire to re-wire the entire building (42 units).

[smirnoff]

likely they would only need to replace the drop line outside.

[Swordfish]

the line to the house was 60 plus years old.

I'm surprised that even worked on 60 year old wires. A DSL line requires fiber optic lines to work I'm guessing that was copper wires?

No wonder you were frsutrated

[Dr.Dan]

There's still lots of copper between the phone jack and the central office... which is where it then gets trunked on the fibre optics ;)

Smirnoff, I'm not sure what you mean by "uninsulated stuff" that you have inside now...

What you should have inside will be tan or grey in colour with 4 insulated wires (red, green, yellow, black) inside it.

[Swordfish]

Yes thankyou for the correction Dan, however I was refering to the wire outside which is 60 years old. I understand fiberoptics were not in use then as required by DSL :)

[Exmortis]

A DSL line requires fiber optic lines to work I'm guessing that was copper wires?

I seriously doubt you got fiber optic right up to your house. :)

Things can happen to wires in a span of 60 years that can degrade it. The insulation can crack and allow contaminents inside, for example. Telephone wiring in the majority of homes today is still the same 4 small wires into a larger cable.

[Swordfish]

I seriously doubt you got fiber optic right up to your house. :)

Things can happen to wires in a span of 60 years that can degrade it. The insulation can crack and allow contaminents inside, for example. Telephone wiring in the majority of homes today is still the same 4 small wires into a larger cable.

precisely :)

[Dr.Dan]

Yes thankyou for the correction Dan, however I was refering to the wire outside which is 60 years old. I understand fiberoptics were not in use then as required by DSL :)
Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying... but it sounds like you're saying that today you get fibre lines to the house (this is what smirnoff just had replaced).
But as it stands today, Bell lines are still all copper from the house to your CO... it's only there that it all get 'trunked' into the fibre.
This is why we have the 4Km. limit for high speed DSL... because it's running through lossy copper wire.

Now if they had fibre running up and down all the streets (which we will in the future), we'd all be able to get very nice DSL speeds :d

[Swordfish]

Dan I know all this :) I dont need to be corrected is what I'm saying

Thankyou.

[Digiital]

When I wired up my "Computer Room" in the basement, I had wired the phone lines using Cat5e. I had TONS of it, plus it was cheaper then the "bell wire" they were trying to sell me. One line and I could carry 4 phonelines into one room is need be.

[smirnoff]

ok lots of confused people here...lol.

the wire inside most homes is cat1 or pot wire which is old and seriously outdated (tan or white four wires).

bell runs fiber to the nodes but normaly to the homes from the nodes its still copper...cost to mush to run it to every home.

the newer wire as mentioned is cat5e which was made for todays traffic and internet

theres also a cat6 which goes beyound cat5e and is mostly used in busseness do to its shielding.


yup..i did my homework and the replaced drop line to the house has made a huge change but i have noticed if i go near the iside line things go nuts.

guess dad shouldn't have moved that radioactive stuff for the hospital just before having me...lol.