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Lee Anne
07-13-2005, 01:12 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/

From The Toronto Star:

The longest labour battle in the history of professional sports in North America is finally over.


The NHL and the NHL Players’ Association said today a tentative deal had been reached after the two sides met for more than 24 hours straight in New York, the culmination of 10 consecutive days of talks.

The process is not quite over. The players’ rank and file and the owners have to ratify the agreement. That is expected some time next week.

Both sides are expected to approve the deal, paving the way for the NHL to reopen for business.

The NHL and NHLPA said details of the agreement will not be released pending ratification.

The game will return looking drastically different both on and off the ice. A vastly different and complicated collective bargaining agreement, highlighted by a hard salary cap, has given owners their long-desired “cost certainty.”

Teams will come back looking vastly different as well. Mass player movement is expected with a high number of free agents on the market as well as several high-paid players expected to get bought out so teams can fit under the cap.

On the ice, major rules changes are being examined which will hopefully open up the game and create more excitement, likely including the reduction in the size of goalie equipment, allowing the two-line pass, and the penalty shootout to decide tie games during the regular season.

And there’s much work ahead to lure back bitter fans and an apathetic corporate community.

A source also said today that the belated 2005 NHL entry draft will be held in Ottawa on Saturday, July 30, although a much smaller event with only the very top prospects invited, including Sidney Crosby, the consensus No. 1 pick.

In the end, the players caved in on an issue they swore they never would: the salary cap.

They also lost out on the entry-level system with rookies scaled back to $850,000 (U.S.) a season in maximum salary as well as swallowing a 24 per cent rollback on all existing contracts.

It’s clear this isn’t a deal NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow was in favour of but he went along with it, respecting the wishes of president Trevor Linden and the rest of the players’ executive committee.

It’s been a long and tumultuous road towards a resolution. From the first labour meeting in January 2003 to the last on Wednesday, both sides met 82 times over two and a half years before finally agreeing on a new deal.

The lockout wiped out the entire 2004-05 season, including all 1,230 regular-season games, denying hockey fans a Stanley Cup champion for the first time since a flu epidemic cancelled the 1919 final. The NHL became the first major professional league in North America to lose a season from beginning to end because of labour strife.

Once commissioner Gary Bettman announced the season cancelled Feb. 16, both sides returned to the negotiating table March 11 in the first of 44 meetings aimed at making sure the 2005-06 season wouldn’t be delayed.

The two sides met every single week starting in early May and didn’t let up until the end, cramming in long days in the final six weeks in an effort to finally get it done.

A number of player agents are angry with Goodenow, feeling betrayed by his strategy from the get-go. But while the owners appear to have scored a one-sided victory, it remains to be seen at what cost. The damage to the industry from not having any hockey played for a year may have both sides singing the blues

Bogie
07-13-2005, 01:15 PM
:unk:
The Beer Store extends their heartiest congratulations!

Lee Anne
07-13-2005, 01:21 PM
I was reading on TSN's site that they want to expand the playoffs from 16 teams to 20 plus the others changes to the game itself, no red line, no more ties and I also heard they want to get rid of icing on the penatly kill http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/leeanne172/confused.gif it's going to be the Extreme Makeover of hockey .. lol

Ottawaman
07-13-2005, 01:22 PM
:unk:
The Beer Store extends their heartiest congratulations!

Ha!
They should use this as a commercial

Shaman
07-13-2005, 01:36 PM
there has to be icing on penalty kill, the team with the advantage just cant ice it how stupid is that.

A much better alternative is to have the penalty for the full 2 minutes, goal or no goal. same with a 5 minute fighting, your team is shorthanded for either 5 minutes or lets say, 3 goals max.

that would seriously deter fighting.

I like the no red-line
I like 1 ot period, then shootout, and as JR said, but the shootout doesn't count for statistics, THAT IS GENIUS JR!!!!! i didnt' even think of that.
I like making the golie equipment smaller, safety permitting. Refers to the Patrick Roy's Lacrosse equipment, Everyone should have what Broudeur wears, he is fair in his equipment

I don't like changing the nets, stupid i mean every hockey rink in canada has one net, we all grew up on for 100 years, COMON now. you would have to change every single net in canada.

bigzig
07-13-2005, 01:42 PM
hah yay for HOCKEY !!

i can't wait for the games to start and the ottawa and leafs fans will go at it again!

Lee Anne
07-13-2005, 01:44 PM
there has to be icing on penalty kill, the team with the advantage just cant ice it how stupid is that.

A much better alternative is to have the penalty for the full 2 minutes, goal or no goal. same with a 5 minute fighting, your team is shorthanded for either 5 minutes or lets say, 2 goals max.

I agree with that

When I heard about the no icing I must have sat here for 5 minutes trying to figure how exactly they consider it a penalty "kill" when the puck is just practially staying inside the blue line for the whole time, what else did I hear that they want to do? Oh, no changing players on the penalty kill which would be great when you get those 5 minute and really odd 7 minutes penalties http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/leeanne172/Smilies%20Part%203/huh.gif, they want to call penalties for using the trap, it would be called 'illegal defense' .. I guess that would really tick off New Jersey ;)

I read this awhile back and have no idea if they will actually go ahead with these weirdo rules but nothing would suprise me at this point

Shaman
07-13-2005, 01:49 PM
Illegal Defense, hahaa, Ill be thinking NBA for 1/2 the year when they call that.

Shaman
07-13-2005, 01:50 PM
Better to call it Team Neutral Zone Obstruction Infraction

Personally I like watching Colorado use their 'aggressive' penality kill and ice the puck making teams like Detroit struggle offensively

people have got it wrong, it's scoring chances not goals. Fans appreciate great defence as well as spectacular scoring chances.

The trap killed much of this i.e anahiem and minnesota in the playoffs????

Mouse
07-13-2005, 02:11 PM
there has to be icing on penalty kill, the team with the advantage just cant ice it how stupid is that.

I agree, and that's why it only applies to the team with a disadvantage.

It allows them to clear the puck without worrying about yet another face-off in their end.

xahax
07-13-2005, 10:53 PM
I don't care what they do to "improve" the game. I ain't watching the National Hokey League anymore. And yes, that is "Hokey", not a mis-spell.

debbie
07-13-2005, 11:19 PM
Any speculation on who these 'high priced players' are that are going to be bought out?

batkinson001
07-13-2005, 11:50 PM
as long as they dont touch my leafs i dont care who gets bought.

BillD
07-14-2005, 01:06 AM
Owen Nolan will be the first.

Shaman
07-14-2005, 09:30 AM
Owen Nolans a bum anyway

he had that one big game when he first joined then went flat

Lee Anne
07-14-2005, 04:58 PM
From the Toronto Star's website: I also read that the Leafs want to try and resign Roberts, Domi and Nieuwendyk


The first order of business will be the buyout of Owen Nolan's contract, which would have paid him $5.6 million after the 24 per cent rollback. Other regulars from the 2003-04 team who won't be back in Toronto are Alexander Mogilny and Bryan Marchment, who won't be re-signed. Robert Reichel, Tom Fitzgerald and Mikael Renberg had already moved on. Late-season acquisitions Brian Leetch and Ron Francis also will not return



Here are some of the changes they want to make to the game also

Increasing the number of playoff teams from 16 to 20 (two more from each conference). The lowest-ranking teams would play a best-of-three preliminary round before the best-of-seven gets underway
The current four-on-four overtime period would be followed by three minutes of three-on-three. If the game remains tied, a three-man shootout would decide the outcome (no ties, two points to the winner, nothing to the loser)

Downsizing goalie equipment, the area in which goalies can touch the puck behind their nets, and limiting areas where they can freeze the puck

Each goal line moved back two feet to increase the offensive zone.

Zero tolerance on obstruction away from the puck. Reductions in
obstructions (holding and hooking) near the goal crease. Renewed vigilance against cross-checking and slashing fouls.

Icing — whether it's called or waved off — determined by which player
reaches the goal line first.

Tag-up rule for players crossing the blue line before the puck.

Instigator penalty in the final five minutes of a game results in an ejection and one-game suspension. Coach of the offending player is fined $10,000 and if the team pays the fine, it takes another $100,000 hit.

Crackdown on diving — fines increased for each infraction until there are four, at which time the player is suspended for one game. Player's name also circulated through the league on a list of other divers.

Penalty for shooting puck into the stands in defensive zone, and no personnel changes after deliberately icing the puck

Kelisis
07-14-2005, 08:58 PM
Re-signing Domi would be a colossal waste of money :rolleyes:

Mouse
07-14-2005, 09:33 PM
Each goal line moved back two feet to increase the offensive zone.
?????

Single file only behind the net. :hys:

Kelisis
07-14-2005, 10:37 PM
Increasing the number of playoff teams from 16 to 20 (two more from each conference).
What a friggin' joke :eri:

rileydog
07-15-2005, 07:24 PM
Now if every team has 2 0r 3 players they can't afford and need to " buy out " , who will be able to afford to pick up these players?..if you can't afford your own retreads,how can you afford someone elses?..Maybe they should take the "buy out" as their last bonus..and get re-hired by the same team at a smaller fee?

Be a shame to see that many veterans retire that still have gas in the tank..ie: Leetch, Roberts,

Lee Anne
07-15-2005, 07:40 PM
Now if every team has 2 0r 3 players they can't afford and need to " buy out " , who will be able to afford to pick up these players?..if you can't afford your own retreads,how can you afford someone elses?..Maybe they should take the "buy out" as their last bonus..and get re-hired by the same team at a smaller fee?

Be a shame to see that many veterans retire that still have gas in the tank..ie: Leetch, Roberts,

I've been wondering the same thing

I already read that Leetch won't be back but Roberts wants to stay, at the 24% cut I heard he will make just under 3 million a year and of course if he wants more I suppose he will just move on, rumour is the Sens will try and scoop him up :(

Glen
07-15-2005, 11:42 PM
I've been wondering the same thing

I already read that Leetch won't be back but Roberts wants to stay, at the 24% cut I heard he will make just under 3 million a year and of course if he wants more I suppose he will just move on, rumour is the Sens will try and scoop him up :(

Given that he wasn't all that healthy last season I think he should take the 3 mil. At least go to any other team other than Ottawa. :)

Lee Anne
07-15-2005, 11:55 PM
If he doesn't want 3 million I'll take it .. lol .. I really hope he does, he's always been my fave player and I shudder at the thought of him being in a Sens uniform http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/leeanne172/nervous.gif

Limey32
07-16-2005, 12:25 AM
Here is the thing. As the biggest Leaf Fan on this Board, (Atleast I think so).. The Leafs are in big trouble. They were very old before the lockout, and now they are ancient. Eddie needs to go.. they want to keep him. Mistake, wonky back, 40 years old. Bad idea. Domi? Only if he plays for 300k a year. Simply for fan favorite status. Roberts, Joe, Alex, and Owen simply must leave.. or retire. I loved them all. But the time is over. The Leafs have 1 thing going for them in this new CBA. They have the money to buy out the aging guard, during these coming 10 days.. without hurting the club. Get the payroll down, and sign Murray, Lindros, Rathje, Kariya, and Selanne. They will all come cheap. Schneider Maybe?

Kelisis
07-16-2005, 07:35 AM
Here's a question:

Suppose a team can only spend, say, $3 million on a particular player they really want to keep, but he is currently earning $6 million.

What's to stop that team from dropping his salary to $3 million (to stay within the team's salary cap) and paying him a $3 million 'signing bonus' ??

Is there anything in this new CBA that would prevent that?

These things are like the Income Tax Act - there are always loopholes which can be exploited by 'creative' people.

P.S. - Lee Anne: There's a typo in your thread title ('strike') :D

Lee Anne
07-16-2005, 11:34 AM
I changed it ;)

Walter
07-17-2005, 10:55 AM
Bottom line.........

Glen
07-17-2005, 01:42 PM
Get the payroll down, and sign Murray, Lindros, Rathje, Kariya, and Selanne. They will all come cheap. Schneider Maybe?

Well, I am no Lindros fan so I hope they never sign him. The best pic I have seen of him is lying on the ice in front of the Phili team picture. lol

rcdraft
07-17-2005, 02:52 PM
I was starting to worry about my pension plan!

Mouse
07-17-2005, 06:04 PM
Today's offering by Susan Dewar. :)