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Neal
11-16-2005, 06:18 PM
I am trying to scan and touch up a picture of my bosses Grandaughter so he can e-mail it to relatives in Europe. When I scan it with my Epson scanner I seem to be getting this line across the bottom and right side. Can't figure it out. :rrg:
I am also trying to get a combination of a quality scan and yet a size that won't jam up peoples mail boxes.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Neal.

mander
11-16-2005, 06:35 PM
How is this Neal. Fixed and saved as a gif instead of jpg. 80.4 kb in size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/mander64/Miscellaneous/Untitled-1copy.gif


If its too bright, let me know and I will fix it.

Neal
11-16-2005, 06:37 PM
How did you get rid of the lines?

mander
11-16-2005, 06:43 PM
How did you get rid of the lines?

Using Paint Shop Pro. I simply cut the pic slightly smaller....hardly noticable at all. Sometimes when scanning pics, it they aren't positioned 100%, some scanning light gets through to the white backing on the scanner lid and thus your result. Happens to me all the time so I just use a photo editing program to do minor touch ups.

Is it good as far as brightness? My monitor is a tad dark and it looks fine to me but some may see it as being bright.

Neal
11-16-2005, 06:48 PM
Your good!
I kept looking at the original portrait and straining my eyes to see if there was a line. I was about to write to Epson to see if I was doing something wrong.
I am using Photoshop Elements 2.
So if I scan and save it as a GIF it will be smaller in file size then? I'm going to try that.
Thanks Mander!!

mander
11-16-2005, 06:51 PM
What I did with your original pic is open it in PSP, do the necessary work then save the pic as gif. Makes it about 4 times the file size. Any editing should be done as a jpeg as its a higher quality and sometimes shows things that a gif may not. Scan to jpeg to get the best quality, then open in a photo editor to conver to gif for a smaller file size.

Mouse
11-16-2005, 06:53 PM
I have an LCD, and I'm straining to see any lines where your arrows are. It's just a great picture, IMO.

My pic is darker though, so maybe that's part of my problem.

Neal
11-16-2005, 06:56 PM
Thanks again! I'm going to try that. I have to get ready to go to work at the moment but first thing in the morning. Luckily I have a few days to work on it for the boss and his wife.
Thanks again mander, you have proved to me that I can learn something new everyday.

Neal.

mander
11-16-2005, 06:57 PM
I have an LCD, and I'm straining to see any lines where your arrows are. It's just a great picture, IMO.

My pic is darker though, so maybe that's part of my problem.

Same with my crt monitor MM. I couldn't see the side and bottom lines until I opened it in PSP and lightened the pic. It was then very obvious. I simply cropped the lines so that people that can see them, can take that pic if they so choose and have it printed at a photo place.

Neal
11-16-2005, 07:01 PM
Trust me MouseMeat, in my scan there is a very noticeable line where the picture looks faded below it. I have tried scanning it upside down and moving the picture from one side of the scanner bed to the other. There is no way I can let him send a picture like that to his relatives. Now I have some ideas to work with. You just have to love the help you get from the great people on this board.

Mouse
11-16-2005, 07:08 PM
I tried too, just using vanilla MS Paint. :)

Ken_ver_1_5
11-16-2005, 07:24 PM
just a suggestion Mander next time turn the brightness up on your monitor.
you must be running yours dark.
Also saving as a gif reduces the color depth and is really not needed
with a jpeg.

mander
11-16-2005, 07:57 PM
just a suggestion Mander next time turn the brightness up on your monitor.
you must be running yours dark.


It was fine when I bought it Ken. Has gotten darker with use. Its at full brightness now. I think it may need internal adjustment. :(

Ken_ver_1_5
11-16-2005, 08:06 PM
yep it does Mander, maybe time for a new one bigger and better.

mander
11-16-2005, 08:10 PM
yep it does Mander, maybe time for a new one bigger and better.

Got a spare 6 or 7 hundred bucks for a 21" lcd to spare? :ggl:

Mouse
11-16-2005, 08:13 PM
I went from a 19" CRT to a 15" LCD.

It was a shock at first, but it's ok now. :)

Ken_ver_1_5
11-16-2005, 08:41 PM
my attempt :)http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/2194/lilonekver5pr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nuke
11-16-2005, 08:48 PM
My attempt. Added black and white just for fun as well :)
I brightened up the face and background a touch as well.

mander
11-16-2005, 09:53 PM
Neal, what is the little ones first name? I am doing some playing of my own just to pass the time. :ggl:

ultrabuzz
11-19-2005, 12:07 AM
One more :)
Lil' brigher, lil' sharper and de-noised.

Lesster
11-19-2005, 12:16 AM
One more :)
Lil' brigher, lil' sharper and de-noised.
I just have to ask ... what software did you use to do that. The result is amazing!

ultrabuzz
11-19-2005, 06:11 PM
The result is amazing!Thanks !what software did you use to do that.Good ol' Photoshop.

Ogee
11-22-2005, 10:01 AM
just a suggestion Mander next time turn the brightness up on your monitor.
you must be running yours dark.
Also saving as a gif reduces the color depth and is really not needed
with a jpeg.

While I agree about loss of colour information when saving as a gif. (that is the way the forrnat works) I would not save or scan it as a jpeg if I planned to edit it as every time one RESAVES a jpeg one loses quality because of the way .jpeg compresses the file. I would save it as a .tiff or a .bmp and only use .jpeg to send or save the final version if file size is important. It is very important to either scan and/or save as much information in your "original" as possible and always save the original without "manipulation" so if you decide to try something else with the photo you have the most information possible.

Here is a brief explanation edited from:
http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/129

"...each time you resave the photo (not open and close, but resave it) you sacrifice some image quality on the alter of high compression. Every time a JPEG is re-compressed, some of the "imperfect" information that was created when the photo was previously compressed is made even more "imperfect". Bottom line, the more you re-save a JPEG image, the more it's going to deteriorate...

Actually, here's how you work with JPEGs - save them in another format.

Open the JPEG you want to retouch in your imaging software, then Save As a TIFF file. Since TIFFs don't lose info when they are saved (it's a lossless format), you can edit, open, and save them all you want with no ill effects. Go ahead, spend an afternoon doing it and you'll see I'm not just makin' it up.

Sure, you'll still have all of the "compression artifacts" from the original JPEG file, but they aren't going to get any worse. To minimize the effect, be sure you have your digital camera set to save the highest quality JPEG possible.

Anyhow, once you're done with your retouching, keep the TIF as your "original". Then if you need a smaller file, you can always re-save the TIF as a JPEG and you're all set."